From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65688 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message-confirm-send Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:58:22 +0900 Message-ID: <87k5oj5ae9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87y7czs16b.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87bq9vazy8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87zlxfhztn.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195171131 5904 80.91.229.12 (15 Nov 2007 23:58:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Russ Allbery Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14185@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Nov 16 00:58:55 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Isobm-0004MX-8p for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:58:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsobS-0003nF-Qj; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:58:34 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IsobR-0003mw-Ev for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:58:33 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IsobL-0001fE-7t for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:58:33 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp02.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.72]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1IsobG-0003h0-00 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:58:23 +0100 Original-Received: from 203-216-100-114.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.100.114] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1IsobH-00017L-Ki; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:58:23 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 991752FF6; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:58:22 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <87zlxfhztn.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (Russ Allbery's message of "Thu\, 15 Nov 2007 15\:08\:20 -0800") Original-Lines: 22 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65688 Archived-At: Russ Allbery writes: > By that criteria, confirmation on C-c C-c, since it happens every time > without any recognition of common cases and attaches to a frequent > operation, is useless in much the same way that the rm -i alias is > useless. Perhaps a more useful solution to the "realize your mistake as soon as you hit send" problem (and this at least, is real) would be undoable mail. Undoability often seems like a better method than confirmation. Since you can't actually undo mail sending, a more practical solution then would be a default queuing period for outgoing mail and easy-to-use tools to examine the queue and cancel pending messages. I suppose it's all a bit too much effort (needs MTA cooperation etc) for the gain though. [and would probably cause tons of complaints about your "slow" mail system...] -Miles -- `The suburb is an obsolete and contradictory form of human settlement'