From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65125 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Elias Oltmanns Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Two questions regarding use of agent Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:12:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87k5raxyn3.fsf@denkblock.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188692067 31343 80.91.229.12 (2 Sep 2007 00:14:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:14:27 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13638@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 02 02:14:26 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IRd6f-0002CN-HP for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:14:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IRd5h-0003rS-FI; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:13:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IRTuO-000167-5j for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IRTuJ-000206-VJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1IRTuI-0004Wm-00 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:25:02 +0200 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IRTuI-0000AF-8U for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:25:02 +0200 Original-Received: from 1cust29.tnt3.laf1.deu.da.uu.net ([149.225.28.29]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:25:02 +0200 Original-Received: from eo by 1cust29.tnt3.laf1.deu.da.uu.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:25:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust29.tnt3.laf1.deu.da.uu.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MtpvQtnwFzWEZ4sx0kljCNj6FHg= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65125 Archived-At: Hi all, sending a message in unplugged mode sets the date header of the message and apparently it is not updated when the message is actually sent, i.e., when I press J S after changing into the plugged mode. Is this what an mua is supposed to do or is it merely a design decision taken by the Gnus developers? In the latter case, does the user have the option to change this behaviour? I think I'd rather have the Date header of my messages reflect the time when they leave my system instead of the time when I have finished composing them. The second issue is this: When I enter a group of an agentised server in plugged state, the agent fetches the headers of all unread articles so they are still available once I have switched back to unplugged operation. Is there a simple way to fetch *just* the headers of all unread articles in one or several groups without entering each of them manually? Of course, I could write a lisp function that performs exactly the same steps I would use to enter each group in turn and leave it right afterwards, but prehaps there is a more elegant solution. I'm running gnus trunk as of 2007-06-27. Thanks for your advice, Elias