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From: Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>
Subject: Re: nntp problems with hibernating and waking up in a new network
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:34:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k6e9qipe.fsf@dod.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hd9em007.fsf@obelix.mork.no>

>>>>> Bjørn Mork <bmork@dod.no>:

> The main problem when doing this is that emacs (or libc?) will cache
> DNS resolvers for you, and these probably won't work in your new
> network environment.  Therefore there is no nntp traffic, only
> unanswered DNS queries.

I thought it might be something like this, but I had hoped it was in
the lisp code in the nntp backend, since nnimap worked.

However...

> Can't explain why the nnimap sessions work.  Maybe they are using
> some external process to set up the connection, e.g a ssh tunnel?

That is indeed the case.  That is, not an SSH tunnel, but as NNIMAPS
using the "openssl" executable.

> Never found a good solution to the cached DNS resolver problem.
> Note that is isn't confined to emacs.  The same problem applies to
> most applications running forever without mechanisms for reloading
> /etc/resolv.conf, like most browsers.

Actually, my browsers survive.  I used to have a problem with a
similar situation in Opera, when I went on VPN using PPTP, and back
(this changed the /etc/resolv.conf file but the browser didn't keep
track). 

But with recent versions of Opera, this problem has gone away.

> Personally I resorted to running BIND locally on the laptop...

That won't work for me, because this would confuse the PPTP client, I
think.  Or perhaps I could just list all DNS clients at work and at
home, and let BIND sort them out?

But if so, what happens when I go online in a different network where
I'm passed a name server with the DHCP lease?

I'm thinking of a simple workaround, which would be to use an
intermediate connection like nntp-open-via-rlogin-and-telnet or
something.  But instead of connecting to a remote machine, just use
the current machine.

The idea here is to "misuse" the indirection to fork off a new process
that would actually read /etc/resolv.conf.

We'll see.




  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-13 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-12 10:02 Steinar Bang
2005-12-12 15:56 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-12-12 17:29   ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-13 16:33     ` Simon Josefsson
2005-12-13 18:51       ` Adrian Aichner
2005-12-13 19:19         ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-14 14:15           ` Simon Josefsson
2005-12-14 20:21             ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-15 10:48               ` Simon Josefsson
2005-12-13 18:57       ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-12 16:53 ` Jesper Harder
2005-12-12 17:22   ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-12 22:19 ` Bjørn Mork
2005-12-13 12:34   ` Steinar Bang [this message]
2005-12-13 14:00     ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-13 16:33       ` Steinar Bang
2005-12-13 19:24         ` Steinar Bang
2006-01-18 11:35 ` gmane spam reporting problems moving between networks (Was: nntp problems with hibernating and waking up in a new network) Steinar Bang
2006-01-19 10:13   ` gmane spam reporting problems moving between networks Simon Josefsson
2006-08-02 19:38   ` gmane spam reporting problems moving between networks (Was: nntp problems with hibernating and waking up in a new network) Steinar Bang

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