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Also sprach Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@attbi.com>:

> I will admit that I haven't really looked into the workings of nntp
> very much, but my impression from that is that it does not have even a
> minimal amount of security, which is surprising.  Presumably, anyone
> who can read the protocol specification would be able to implement the
> equivalent to gnus-mdrtn.el, and thus do all of those `evil things.'

Right.

Take a look at *.newusers.*: Noone wants to tell every newbie out there
how to post to a moderated group or cancel other people's postings. But
after some time most of the people know.

You hope that those guys who just want to disturb and destroy don't read
lengthy technical specifications. Some do. Most don't. But there's
nothing more you can do.

Thomas