From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46218 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Paul Graham on fighting SPAM Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:07:38 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87k7mizmgl.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <87d6sf42ys.fsf@emacswiki.org> <871y8u7un8.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87fzxa7ala.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87d6se9dsy.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87vg637hvh.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030046788 30332 127.0.0.1 (22 Aug 2002 20:06:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17hyDr-0007t6-00 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:06:27 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17hyED-0002LG-00; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:06:49 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:07:20 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA01217 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:07:07 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 24711 invoked by alias); 22 Aug 2002 20:06:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24706 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 20:06:30 -0000 Original-Received: from relay02.cablecom.net (62.2.33.102) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 20:06:30 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.swissonline.ch (mail-4.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.85]) by relay02.cablecom.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/20020820) with ESMTP id g7MK62Ws083437 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:06:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@emacswiki.org) Original-Received: from confusibombus (dclient217-162-239-43.hispeed.ch [217.162.239.43]) by smtp.swissonline.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6/SMTPSOL/AWF/2002040101) with ESMTP id g7MK62H26923 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:06:02 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17hyF0-00005S-00 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:07:38 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:57:45 -0400") Original-Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.90 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46218 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46218 Ted Zlatanov writes: > The functions you have are great, we just need to figure out how to > preserve the state of an article marked as spam, for the > spam<->not_spam transitions, or to go with the original idea of > expiring all spam mail that's been processed already. Maybe we could move spam into mail.spam, with expirable. If the user then moves mail from or to mail.spam, this indicates transitions and must be handled immediately (instead of waiting for summary buffer exit). What do you think? Is that possible to do in a backend-independent way? > Will your stats code be a part of Gnus? Would you like to merge it > with spam.el, so all the spam code is in one place? I have no idea. I would like to contribute it, once it is "done". :) That includes the FSF paperwork. Once I think it is "done", I will write to assign@gnu.org. (Assuming that spam.el is part of Gnus which is also part of Emacs.) Alex.