Re: Problems with .newsrc.eld (aws: Re: self-contained nnml)

[Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> > Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>> >
>> >> Recompile, yada, yada, then we boot XEmacs and it starts Gnus...
>> >>
>> >> ...the bootstrapping of the NNML marks works just fine.
>> >
>> > Does the .marks file contain correct marks for the nnml groups?
>> > (If so, backup them now :-))
>>
>> Yeah, it's got the right values and all. So does my .newsrc.eld
>>
>> What isn't right is that .newsrc.eld has the wrong number in the
>> first field of the record for each group, such that:
>>
>> ("Inbox.stats.mail" 3 ((1 . 34)) nil nil ((timestamp 15232 18635)))
>>
>> The 3 there just after the group name seems to be what's causing the
>> problems; that's the number of items shown for each group in the
>> *Groups* buffer...
> 
> No, it's the group level.  It looks ok.

Ah. Here was I feeling all clever-like, too. :)

> It looks as if your nnml server is your primary select method?  

Yes, it is. :)

> If so, that may explain things, the bootstrap hack is ugly. Perhaps
> you could evaluate the following two expressions:
> 
> (gnus-server-to-method "nnml:")
> (gnus-group-prefixed-name "Inbox.stats.mail"
>                           (gnus-server-to-method "nnml:"))
> (gnus-get-info (gnus-group-prefixed-name "Inbox.stats.mail"
>                                          (gnus-server-to-method
>                                          "nnml:")))

Er, I went and updated my Gnus to the latest CVS version...

...and it works now. *sigh*

Anyway, those three evaluate as:

,----
| (gnus-server-to-method "nnml:")
| => (nnml "")
| 
| (gnus-group-prefixed-name "Inbox.stats.mail"
|                           (gnus-server-to-method "nnml:"))
| => "Inbox.stats.mail"
| 
| (gnus-get-info (gnus-group-prefixed-name "Inbox.stats.mail"
|                                          (gnus-server-to-method
| 					  "nnml:")))
| => ("Inbox.stats.mail" 3 ((1 . 125)) ((seen (35 . 52) (57 . 125))) nil ((timestamp 15233 60165)))
`----

>> > Does the .marks file contain exactly the same marks as `G E'?
>>
>> Yes, with the exception of adding `read' to the start of the read
>> field, which isn't present in .newsrc.eld, and *not* featuring the
>> magic number 3 anywhere in the record.
>>
>> I presume both these differences are by design, though
> 
> Yup.
> 
> Hm. Maybe it should copy the group level and group parameters as well.

Well, group parameters such as the `to-list' and `to-address', I would
expect to transfer and back-up correctly. If I stopped backing up the
.eld file and they got lost, I would go find a corner and cry or
something. :)

>> > Could you edebug `nnml-request-update-info'? Especially compare the
>> > `info' on input with how it looks when the function is about to
>> > terminate.
>>
>> That's all correct. The issue is that when using `g', rather than
>> `M-g', this function gets 3 passed in as the, er, second value of the
>> INFO argument.
> 
> Err, the second value of info should probably be 3, it's the group
> level. Could you post how they look both with `g' and `M-g'?

Now I know. Anyway, it works again. I can go back to the broken version
if you want, but that's not high on my priority list...

        Daniel

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