From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25588 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2023 16:59:36 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Oct 2023 16:59:36 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsnPp-00G14h-0H for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:59:33 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsnPo-008FBe-0O for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:59:32 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsnPl-008FBV-0u for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:59:29 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsnPj-00A61G-30 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:59:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=xrLffrSszr3PltOrr6b6oWKSzdrLgQd3BViFIAmXelk=; b=YFQJF3ocqo/HrYWIWMNeSPTA7i EiyHl2d4HXTMJPx9wd8oLIipPF15s+wyJ7OAUalHkhnzN4UoQ6f6u0BSPemAtBoK/ach79dpHVEc6 BmLouJ2MNUOpKuzWDZKF4U2AzEL07f+HovRPIRN7Fq5I5jAIUyAMZsJAF1Kgg7ts6rbQ=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qsnPb-0000I8-Uu for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:59:22 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qsnPa-000647-L9 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:59:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Change default behavior of gnus-summary-pipe-output? Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 09:59:06 -0700 Message-ID: <87lec1b2xx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JkYJBxVtptigkfdmmED+HGv476A= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Hi all, There was a bug report recently about the behavior of the output-to-pipe article command in Gnus (bound to "|"), which by default sends the treated article to the pipe/process, not the raw article. This was breaking the direct application of some git patches, because the treatment was inserting newlines where they didn't belong. The solution[0] was to use the symbolic prefix "M-i r" before running the "|" command. That switches to sending the raw article instead. This is the only article output command that allows the user to toggle raw/treated. It seems like piping the raw article should be the default, instead. That ought to reduce the likelihood that users would run into the symbolic prefix, too, which I have to assume many people don't know about and don't use. So my survey is two part: 1. What do you think about changing the default behavior of the output to pipe command to use the raw article? 2. How many of you are aware of Gnus' symbolic prefixes, and make use of them? Looks like only 11 commands use it, mostly around sorting groups, and a couple of scoring commands. Thanks! Eric [0] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=66450#8