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From: Eric Abrahamsen <>
Subject: Re: how to kill a virtual group
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2022 08:12:15 -0800	[thread overview]
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Emanuel Berg <> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> I think it would be weird if Gnus let you edit a server
>> you'd defined in your .gnus.el file, and then those edits
>> were simply overwritten next time you restarted Gnus.
> But then you get the situation now where the same stuff has to
> be treated differently ... which should never happen.
> Something like this could be used from .gnus.el and *Server*,
> alike since they, while different, should differ on the
> interface level only ...
> (defun gnus-edit-server (srv params &optional redefine)
>  "Create or edit SRV with PARAMS.
> If REDEFINE is non-nil, overwrite existing data ..."
>  ... )
> If people then choose to ignore that and instead edit the data
> directly in .gnus.el then yes, that would reset any in-between
> session changes, be it from Lisp or *Server* or any other
> thinkable way for that matter - and that's completely fine, it
> is that way with everything, and so it should. Set the integer
> to something, change it to something else, if it is set again
> on the next init that's what it'll be - I mean, what else
> would one have it be and how ever would that work?
> So interactive interface from Emacs (buttons etc), interface
> from Lisp (Elisp code); they uses the same setters and
> functions one level below to do the actual business; and when
> done, no worry and no record where the data was set.

Well, I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think writing
all this code and changing Gnus' behavior is worth it for some
conceptual idea of consistency and purity. With proper messaging to the
user (and non-buggy code) it's just not a huge tragedy.

      reply	other threads:[~2022-02-04 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-28 15:07 Uwe Brauer
2022-01-28 17:05 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-01-28 21:02   ` Uwe Brauer
2022-01-28 22:21     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-01-29  0:03       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-01-29  4:18         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-01-29 15:48           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-01-29 17:17             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-01-30 22:33               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-01-31 19:24                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-01-31 21:59                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-02-01  1:43                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-02-01  3:10                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-02-01  4:32                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-02-01  7:26                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-02-01 16:10                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-02-04  2:30                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-02-04 16:12                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]

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