From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31746 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2020 22:10:20 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Aug 2020 22:10:20 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kB3c2-00A0ms-Ir; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:09:46 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kB3bz-00A0kv-3o for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:09:43 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kB3bx-001pGZ-C4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:09:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References :Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9STjEl+kv0xHrtUr9x0hB5ob5h+mUF0d7T9Fv+QwlmE=; b=fLt9uThynlWIV5/Mg1OjqISJ8U OXRrtH47ul//uY2n+/C9tgZUMVx/FVYnIFTc7lQU68krBVRhfxJQECHMCZsP5CGgFW7pGnzmrBJEy y6tuMGcFuqCB2PnRF9P3whT78VqzIYCn9saXWU4thkb4cWxCOXEF7JnsGOB9Kfjet2XM=; Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214] helo=ciao.gmane.io) by quimby with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kB3bp-0003Gg-Br for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 00:09:37 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kB3bo-0002My-2C for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 00:09:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: nnml suddenly not activating groups on startup Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:09:26 -0700 Message-ID: <87lfi1ys89.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87zh6itacs.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <871rjtn8g2.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87tuwptjcx.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <87y2m1jnij.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <878se1dswd.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NtJeMqWXsQ2sLgpbricSLwuxeD8= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Russ Allbery writes: > Adam Sjøgren writes: > >> All¹ of my mail groups have "nnml:" as the last element in >> gnus-newsrc-alist. > >> I have a feeling that Gnus sometimes gets confused about servers that >> are the same but mentioned by different definitions. Maybe going all >> "nnml:" or all (nnml "") will unconfuse things? > > I tried changing everything to "nnml:" and that caused all of the groups > to not be activated and then, in the server buffer, the nnml server was > left closed after I started Gnus. > > I then changed them all to (nnml "") and that fixes the problem (but I > suspect new groups won't have that setting). > > So (nnml "") seems to be doing something different than "nnml:" and is > working correctly, and this appears to have something to do with when the > server is opened. Maybe it's a sequencing issue during startup? > > For the record, my select-method configuration is: > > '(gnus-select-method > '(nntp "news.eyrie.org" > (nntp-open-connection-function network-only) > (nntp-connection-timeout 3))) > '(gnus-secondadry-select-methods '((nnml ""))) Just checking in to confirm that the above is a typo, and not actual copy-and-paste from your config?