From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 8166 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2020 21:43:24 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Jun 2020 21:43:24 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jkDvQ-0000Kc-Fe; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:42:52 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jkDvM-0000Ht-5X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:42:48 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jkDvK-00BbVt-FT for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 16:42:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/Gjc7mzUJ2P9x6uOUKnPOMfXR8VlUcF0ZPfeazW4uBA=; b=Qb26G9K02GIiy/zkKmZZilNX0T dkU3ap10JTD90u1TxKoxGQ5XsVfTZ7yrpBQCpMYrQv9GKKHVtBJBErGXjUNi66clmtbAXwDdeeIxd 4RpuE4ppjGDwbmy2GckOTWrBdiAKMBiJClOBbBXo1fmOctakOtZB/OPd2pvM4D0wvRBw=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([159.69.161.202]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jkDvC-0005YE-UC for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 23:42:42 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jkDvB-000XCf-J8 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 23:42:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: I want to expire some even if unread Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 14:42:31 -0700 Message-ID: <87lfkqej7c.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <875zbv4emo.fsf@hillenius.net> <875zbvlyng.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fx0f/+aQi3t6KJuy+3vame8fOAU= List-ID: Precedence: bulk David Rogers writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 02:35, davidandrewrogers@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> The manual states more than once that >>> gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups >>> only expires messages that have been read; my question is about >>> expiring *all* messages, even the unread ones, when they get old. >>> If >>> gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups can be made to expire both read and >>> unread together, then that's great. (but please tell me how) >> >> I use "M H" and "M h" (selective catch-up, sorting the group by >> date, >> say) all the time to catch up many articles without reading them. >> My >> understanding is that these are then marked as having been read and, >> with the setting that others have noted, will then participate in >> the >> expiry process. > > That makes sense. And the responses so far are tending to indicate to > me that the answer to my question is essentially "No, Gnus won't do > what you're asking about, try something different". Does that seem > accurate? (since my question was specifically about deleting old > unread messages automatically, with zero need for intervention) Yes, in general Gnus tries very hard not to touch your unread messages. There's `gnus-auto-expirable-marks', but of course you can't select for _absence_ of a mark. As indicated by the other responses, your best bet is probably just to make it more convenient/speedy to mark messages as read. Eric