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[100.33.98.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e10sm3553466qkl.48.2020.04.07.11.19.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:19:06 -0700 (PDT) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com To: Alberto Luaces Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: gmail setup References: <87blo7tj5l.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87zhbr47z3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ftdjrsdm.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tv1y6pfh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <875zedoo19.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87ftdhx29r.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87k12tipzw.fsf@dick> <87tv1wvrv0.fsf_-_@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87pncjgsdd.fsf@dick> <87pncjur27.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 14:19:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pncjur27.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> (Alberto Luaces's message of "Tue, 07 Apr 2020 19:46:40 +0200") Message-ID: <87lfn7gnvq.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: Precedence: bulk AL> Correction: more than 200 *unread* messages. The "How many articles" question is asked when accessing an inbox that has N unreads where N is either zero or a number greater than gnus-large-newsgroup. People more than occasionally access their inbox when N is zero. AL> I have managed in the past to use gnus without writing any configuration AL> myself =E2=80=94 just creating an nnimap server with "e" from the serve= r window AL> and filling the parameters needed With respect, this is "over the heads" of most users. The "*Server*" buffer somewhat "trickily" accessed via "^" is already a headscratcher (it = was for me!) for people accustomed to mainstream mail clients. I admit that complaining does not advance Gnus's cause. In my defense, I've published a talk-is-cheap-show-me-the-code primer to Gnus IMAP (https://git= hub.com/dickmao/gnus-imap-walkthrough), but removing "A Practical Guide to Gnus" from its lofty throne atop Google's results is = all but impossible at this point.