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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: Amin Bandali <mab@gnu.org>
Cc: "Adam Sjøgren" <asjo@koldfront.dk>, ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Delayed messages, postponing Date: until sending by default?
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:14:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfnvymm5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0976k1r.fsf@gnu.org> (Amin Bandali's message of "Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:57:36 -0400")

Amin Bandali <mab@gnu.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>
>>> Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes:
>>>
>>>> Recently I read a blog post about delayed messages in Gnus:
>>>>
>>>>  · https://tech.toryanderson.com/2020/02/21/emacs-gnus-delay-schedule-email-sending/
>>>>
>>>> And I could help myself nerdsplaining the configuration I use for
>>>> delayed messages.
>>>>
>>>> One of the things is:
>>>>
>>>>   ; Remove date, so delayed messages (C-c C-j) don't get a date until
>>>>   ; sent, from <mailman.1180.1266014215.14305.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>:
>>>>   (setq message-draft-headers '(References From))
>>>
>>> Huh, I didn't realize that the Date header was set as time-of-delay, not
>>> time-of-send. Confirming for myself by delaying this message by a day.
>>> No harm done, as it is totally useless!
>>
>> Huh, no kidding. I can't think of any reason we'd want to send delayed
>> messages out with the original Date header...
>
> +1; I think it would be a more sensible default to use the Date of send.
> I think it can be especially confusing for the receiver seeing a message
> dated, say, 1 day before, but only just appearing in their inbox.

And even with regular (non-delayed) drafts, why would we want to date it
from when we *started* writing the message, rather than when we sent it?

I've opened bug#40151 for this.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-20 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-14 22:46 Adam Sjøgren
2020-03-19 23:01 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 16:42   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 16:57     ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-20 17:14       ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2020-03-20 18:41         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 18:50           ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-20 18:57             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-03-23  2:51           ` Helmut Waitzmann
2020-03-23  4:41             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-23  8:20               ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-23 18:43                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-24 15:09                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-24 20:09                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-25  0:13               ` Helmut Waitzmann

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