Uwe Brauer writes: > I tried > > (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions > '(not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date)) > ;; '(not gnus-thread-sort-by-date)) > > (setq gnus-sort-functions > '(not gnus-article-sort-by-most-recent-date)) > ;; '(not gnus-article-sort-by-date)) > > > Or > (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions > '(not gnus-thread-sort-by-date)) > > (setq gnus-sort-functions > '(not gnus-article-sort-by-date)) Those are all invalid. The variables' values must all be lists, and in order to negate an entry, you'd turn it into a list with car equal to not, e.g., it should be: (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-number) (not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date))) > And not as it should be > > []{ }O 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6 > []{ }OA 57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer [ ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13 > []{ }O 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165 > []{ }O 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11 > []{ }O 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16 Sorry, I don't see how the sorting is here. Converted to UTC, the times here are - 13:30:41 - 09:35:45 - 02:00:07 - 08:00:27 - 18:04:34 and they are not ordered monotonically. So which criterion do you actually want to use for sorting. FWIW, that's what I use. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score) gnus-subthread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-article-sort-by-date)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This gives me high-score threads on top, and when the thread scores are equal, the thread with a newer message is above the other. Inside a thread, e.g., when there are multiple replies to the very same article, I sort chronologically with older above newer messages (so that I don't read the second reply before the first). Bye, Tassilo