From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87964 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: warn about a BCC field Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:28:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87lgdqn3lf.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <87d1eaa0q2.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87d0z51px0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87vacualzc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k1tasuz9.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87lgdqakkw.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87woxayfj8.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87y3hq924h.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523658479 15191 195.159.176.226 (13 Apr 2018 22:27:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:27:59 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m36178@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Apr 14 00:27:55 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.35]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f77Ag-0003py-V6 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:27:55 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 29589e25-3f6a-11e8-a660-b499baabecb2; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f77CN-0004ui-6i; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:29:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f77CK-0004u4-RH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:29:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f77CI-0007Ty-0X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:29:36 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1f77CG-00080s-Nd for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:29:32 +0200 Original-Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f77BK-0001mB-4e for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:29:32 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f77BE-0003YE-Gs for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:28:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y3hq924h.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:23:58 +0200") X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "hermes.netfonds.no", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Uwe Brauer writes: > Well well. I just sent myself with gnus the following message > > From: Uwe Brauer > Subject: this > To: Uwe Brauer > Cc: Uwe Brauer > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:14:28 +0200 (48 seconds ago) > Bcc: oub.oub.oub@gmail.com > > As you can see that is a BCC field. > > Now when I open in my oub.oub.oubGmail.com account the message and > indeed the BCC field is gone. I did the same with thunderbird and the > same behavior. Odd no? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87964 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer writes: > Well well. I just sent myself with gnus the following message > > From: Uwe Brauer > Subject: this > To: Uwe Brauer > Cc: Uwe Brauer > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:14:28 +0200 (48 seconds ago) > Bcc: oub.oub.oub@gmail.com > > As you can see that is a BCC field. > > Now when I open in my oub.oub.oubGmail.com account the message and > indeed the BCC field is gone. I did the same with thunderbird and the > same behavior. Odd no? No, mail user agents are supposed to strip the Bcc header before sending, and that's what Gnus is doing, so everything works as it should. The whole point of the Bcc header is that isn't not supposed to be sent out. > I see your point concerning mailing list, but what's about the other use > case I just mentioned? What would you do in such a situation? > > However I just realized that my code is not failsafe. > > As it seems I can't trust that such a mail (where I am not in the TO/CC) > would include a bcc field, and then my hack would fail. > > Couldn't we set a variable (gnus-for-the-careless-repliers) > but then it is not clear to me what to search for? Any ideas how to deal > with that? Just look for your email address in the headers. If it's not there, it's dangerous for you to do a wide reply on it. > It seems that most people are either not very often in such a situation > or are just more careful then I am. I think so. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no