* Re: Anyone with working nnimap => gmail
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@ 2011-10-17 8:04 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-10-17 14:52 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-10-17 8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> I hope someone can coach me a bit. I've set gnus up to use imap
> accessing gmail account using the secondary select method:
>
>
> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnimap "hputnam3"
> (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com")
> (nnimap-server-port 993)
> (nnimap-stream ssl)))
>
>
> And I am able to subscribe to certain of the offered mailboxes. But
> then some do not appears on the list of subscribable groups. And
> others that do not appears on the gmail interface at all, DO appear on
> gnus interface. In particular, one named:
>
> `34: [Gmail]/All Mail'
>
> shows on the subscribeable list but is not visible on the actual gmail
> interface.
Because gmail doesn't actually have "folders" in the normal imap
sense. It uses the concept of labels instead. "All Mail" is, as it
says, all the emails in your gmail account, regardless of what labels
have been assigned to individual emails, including those that you have
"archived" (which is sort of equivalent to expiring in gnus but not
quite). You can access emails in this "folder" from gmail by searching,
for instance, and probably by asking to show all but it's not something
I've done from the web interface so I am not sure.
> Any that I have created thru the gmail interface do not show up as
> subscribeable. Is it normail to have to add them to the active list
> for nnimap?
yes, as somebody else has already replied. What names do these
invisible "folders" have? All of my folders are visible from gnus.
> Further yet. I see odd happenings... for example I have a new mail in
> the accounts INBOX when viewed from firefox, which I have set to show
> gmail inbox on my homepage. I haven't opened or in any way accessed
> that message, yet it does NOT appear in my gnus nnimap setup.
I am not sure I understand this. What does not appear? The email
itself? Have you tried looking at all the contents of your inbox, say
using /o from the summary view?
> This particular message has been there about 3/4 hrs.
and have you updated the contents from gnus?
--
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.90.1 + No Gnus v0.18
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* Re: Anyone with working nnimap => gmail
2011-10-17 8:04 ` Anyone with working nnimap => gmail Eric S Fraga
@ 2011-10-17 14:52 ` Harry Putnam
2011-10-17 16:07 ` Richard Riley
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2011-10-17 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> I hope someone can coach me a bit. I've set gnus up to use imap
>> accessing gmail account using the secondary select method:
>>
>>
>> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnimap "hputnam3"
>> (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com")
>> (nnimap-server-port 993)
>> (nnimap-stream ssl)))
>>
>>
>> And I am able to subscribe to certain of the offered mailboxes. But
>> then some do not appears on the list of subscribable groups. And
>> others that do not appears on the gmail interface at all, DO appear on
>> gnus interface. In particular, one named:
>>
>> `34: [Gmail]/All Mail'
>>
>> shows on the subscribeable list but is not visible on the actual gmail
>> interface.
>
> Because gmail doesn't actually have "folders" in the normal imap
> sense. It uses the concept of labels instead. "All Mail" is, as it
> says, all the emails in your gmail account, regardless of what labels
> have been assigned to individual emails, including those that you have
> "archived" (which is sort of equivalent to expiring in gnus but not
> quite). You can access emails in this "folder" from gmail by searching,
> for instance, and probably by asking to show all but it's not something
> I've done from the web interface so I am not sure.
>
>> Any that I have created thru the gmail interface do not show up as
>> subscribeable. Is it normail to have to add them to the active list
>> for nnimap?
>
> yes, as somebody else has already replied. What names do these
> invisible "folders" have? All of my folders are visible from gnus.
Command names like keep, Bobbie, hold.tmp and others.
>> Further yet. I see odd happenings... for example I have a new mail in
>> the accounts INBOX when viewed from firefox, which I have set to show
>> gmail inbox on my homepage. I haven't opened or in any way accessed
>> that message, yet it does NOT appear in my gnus nnimap setup.
> I am not sure I understand this. What does not appear? The email
> itself? Have you tried looking at all the contents of your inbox, say
> using /o from the summary view?
Sorry I made it sound complicated... I just mean:
New mail on gmail does not show up on gnus as new mail.
Sometimes its there but marked read, sometimes it not there at all.
And no /o does not show it either.
In an instant case, I see 1 new message on gmail (in web browser).
I've left it there for 2 days now. It has NOT appeared in gnus nnimap
folder `INBOX' or `All Mail' yet.
> and have you updated the contents from gnus?
Yes, including 2 full restarts of gnus followin reboots.
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* Re: Anyone with working nnimap => gmail
2011-10-17 14:52 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2011-10-17 16:07 ` Richard Riley
2011-10-17 18:04 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2011-10-17 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>> I am not sure I understand this. What does not appear? The email
>> itself? Have you tried looking at all the contents of your inbox, say
>> using /o from the summary view?
>
> Sorry I made it sound complicated... I just mean:
> New mail on gmail does not show up on gnus as new mail.
> Sometimes its there but marked read, sometimes it not there at all.
> And no /o does not show it either.
>
> In an instant case, I see 1 new message on gmail (in web browser).
> I've left it there for 2 days now. It has NOT appeared in gnus nnimap
> folder `INBOX' or `All Mail' yet.
You pressed "g" from the group buffer?
gnus-group-get-new-news
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* Re: Anyone with working nnimap => gmail
2011-10-17 16:07 ` Richard Riley
@ 2011-10-17 18:04 ` Harry Putnam
2011-10-17 21:00 ` Richard Riley
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2011-10-17 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>> I am not sure I understand this. What does not appear? The email
>>> itself? Have you tried looking at all the contents of your inbox, say
>>> using /o from the summary view?
>>
>> Sorry I made it sound complicated... I just mean:
>> New mail on gmail does not show up on gnus as new mail.
>> Sometimes its there but marked read, sometimes it not there at all.
>> And no /o does not show it either.
>>
>> In an instant case, I see 1 new message on gmail (in web browser).
>> I've left it there for 2 days now. It has NOT appeared in gnus nnimap
>> folder `INBOX' or `All Mail' yet.
>
> You pressed "g" from the group buffer?
> gnus-group-get-new-news
Yes, but of course, that would have run on the 2 fresh startups I
mentioned anyway.
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* Re: Anyone with working nnimap => gmail
2011-10-17 18:04 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2011-10-17 21:00 ` Richard Riley
2011-10-18 14:02 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2011-10-17 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>>
>>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>>> I am not sure I understand this. What does not appear? The email
>>>> itself? Have you tried looking at all the contents of your inbox, say
>>>> using /o from the summary view?
>>>
>>> Sorry I made it sound complicated... I just mean:
>>> New mail on gmail does not show up on gnus as new mail.
>>> Sometimes its there but marked read, sometimes it not there at all.
>>> And no /o does not show it either.
>>>
>>> In an instant case, I see 1 new message on gmail (in web browser).
>>> I've left it there for 2 days now. It has NOT appeared in gnus nnimap
>>> folder `INBOX' or `All Mail' yet.
>>
>> You pressed "g" from the group buffer?
>> gnus-group-get-new-news
>
> Yes, but of course, that would have run on the 2 fresh startups I
> mentioned anyway.
Not necessarily. You can configure fetch levels. Did you perhaps do
that?
In which case normal startup and "g" wont fetch your inbox if the level
is below that of the defalt.
Do "C-u 9 g" and see.
see:
gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups is a variable defined in `gnus-start.el'.
and
gnus-activate-level
Might be that
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* Re: Anyone with working nnimap => gmail
2011-10-17 21:00 ` Richard Riley
@ 2011-10-18 14:02 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2011-10-18 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>>>> I am not sure I understand this. What does not appear? The email
>>>>> itself? Have you tried looking at all the contents of your inbox, say
>>>>> using /o from the summary view?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I made it sound complicated... I just mean:
>>>> New mail on gmail does not show up on gnus as new mail.
>>>> Sometimes its there but marked read, sometimes it not there at all.
>>>> And no /o does not show it either.
>>>>
>>>> In an instant case, I see 1 new message on gmail (in web browser).
>>>> I've left it there for 2 days now. It has NOT appeared in gnus nnimap
>>>> folder `INBOX' or `All Mail' yet.
>>>
>>> You pressed "g" from the group buffer?
>>> gnus-group-get-new-news
>>
>> Yes, but of course, that would have run on the 2 fresh startups I
>> mentioned anyway.
>
> Not necessarily. You can configure fetch levels. Did you perhaps do
> that?
In my case it does.
> In which case normal startup and "g" wont fetch your inbox if the level
> is below that of the defalt.
In my case it does.
> Do "C-u 9 g" and see.
This is not the issue period. Those groups are at the same level as
all other groups that are scanned with `g', plus I've repeatedly done
M-g on them.
`C-u 9 g' does nothing new here.
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