* nuke offline mode?
@ 2011-09-16 2:35 Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:11 ` Reiner Steib
2011-09-16 7:39 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2011-09-16 2:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ding List
Is there a simple setting I can use to completely and utterly disable
offline mode, and all it's various nasty side-effects?
I hate hate hate offline mode because it (1) constantly interferes
with normal operation in various annoying and confusing ways, and (2)
never actually seems to be useful, even when you're offline or have
limited net access... Anyway, I don't want to deal with this lossage,
and just want to make it go away; any suggestions?
Thanks,
-Miles
--
Cat is power. Cat is peace.
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* Re: nuke offline mode?
2011-09-16 2:35 nuke offline mode? Miles Bader
@ 2011-09-16 6:11 ` Reiner Steib
2011-09-16 6:15 ` Miles Bader
2011-09-16 7:39 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2011-09-16 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Miles Bader; +Cc: ding
On Fri, Sep 16 2011, Miles Bader wrote:
> Is there a simple setting I can use to completely and utterly disable
> offline mode,
Just set `gnus-agent' to nil. Maybe the docs should explain ths more
prominently?
,----[ (info "(gnus)Gnus Unplugged") ]
| Setting up Gnus as an "offline" newsreader is quite simple. In
| fact, you don't have to configure anything as the agent is now enabled
| by default (*note gnus-agent: Agent Variables.).
`----
,----[ (info "(gnus)Agent Variables") ]
| 6.9.11 Agent Variables
| ----------------------
|
| `gnus-agent'
| Is the agent enabled? The default is `t'. When first enabled,
| the agent will use `gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods' to
| automatically mark some back ends as agentized. You may change
| which back ends are agentized using the agent commands in the
| server buffer.
|
| To enter the server buffer, use the `^'
| (`gnus-group-enter-server-mode') command in the group buffer.
`----
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
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* Re: nuke offline mode?
2011-09-16 6:11 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2011-09-16 6:15 ` Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:28 ` Miles Bader
` (2 more replies)
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From: Miles Bader @ 2011-09-16 6:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Reiner Steib, Miles Bader, Ding List
2011/9/16 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:
> On Fri, Sep 16 2011, Miles Bader wrote:
>> Is there a simple setting I can use to completely and utterly disable
>> offline mode,
>
> Just set `gnus-agent' to nil. Maybe the docs should explain ths more
> prominently?
Hmm, doesn't the "gnus agent" have other useful functions? I vaguely
recall something about it like that... that it was for more than
offline stuff.... maybe I'm just misremembering tho...
thanks,
-miels
--
Cat is power. Cat is peace.
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* Re: nuke offline mode?
2011-09-16 6:15 ` Miles Bader
@ 2011-09-16 6:28 ` Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:45 ` Reiner Steib
2011-09-16 15:02 ` Dave Abrahams
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2011-09-16 6:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Reiner Steib, Miles Bader, Ding List
2011/9/16 Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com>:
> 2011/9/16 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:
>> On Fri, Sep 16 2011, Miles Bader wrote:
>>> Is there a simple setting I can use to completely and utterly disable
>>> offline mode,
>>
>> Just set `gnus-agent' to nil. Maybe the docs should explain ths more
>> prominently?
>
> Hmm, doesn't the "gnus agent" have other useful functions? I vaguely
> recall something about it like that... that it was for more than
> offline stuff.... maybe I'm just misremembering tho...
Ah, now I think I remember -- isn't the gnus agent basically the gnus
caching layer? That's useful even when connected, if the
network/server has a lot of latency.
Not sure the optimal combination for me though; the problem is that my
ISP tends to kill nttp connections even after only a short time idle,
which confuses gnus ... (and is one common reason gnus suddenly
decides to enter offline mode)
-miles
--
Cat is power. Cat is peace.
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* Re: nuke offline mode?
2011-09-16 6:15 ` Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:28 ` Miles Bader
@ 2011-09-16 6:45 ` Reiner Steib
2011-09-16 15:02 ` Dave Abrahams
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2011-09-16 6:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Fri, Sep 16 2011, Miles Bader wrote:
> 2011/9/16 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:
>> Just set `gnus-agent' to nil. Maybe the docs should explain ths more
>> prominently?
>
> Hmm, doesn't the "gnus agent" have other useful functions? I vaguely
> recall something about it like that... that it was for more than
> offline stuff.... maybe I'm just misremembering tho...
Dunno. According to vc-annotate, I changed it to nil in my init file
a few days after the default changed to t (2002-05-29).
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: nuke offline mode?
2011-09-16 2:35 nuke offline mode? Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:11 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2011-09-16 7:39 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-09-16 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> writes:
> Is there a simple setting I can use to completely and utterly disable
> offline mode, and all it's various nasty side-effects?
>
> I hate hate hate offline mode because it (1) constantly interferes
> with normal operation in various annoying and confusing ways, and (2)
> never actually seems to be useful, even when you're offline or have
> limited net access... Anyway, I don't want to deal with this lossage,
> and just want to make it go away; any suggestions?
Miles,
I am curious as to your point (1) above. Can you expand on the
annoyances and confusion caused by offline mode?
I use offline mode every twice, twice a day, while on my train journeys
to and from work. I do almost all of my email processing during these
periods! offline mode seems to work just fine for me. I'm using gnus
this way right now and this email will be sent when I get to my office.
eric
--
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 + No Gnus v0.18
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* Re: nuke offline mode?
2011-09-16 6:15 ` Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:28 ` Miles Bader
2011-09-16 6:45 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2011-09-16 15:02 ` Dave Abrahams
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dave Abrahams @ 2011-09-16 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
on Fri Sep 16 2011, Miles Bader <snogglethorpe-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/9/16 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:
>> On Fri, Sep 16 2011, Miles Bader wrote:
>
>>> Is there a simple setting I can use to completely and utterly disable
>>> offline mode,
>>
>> Just set `gnus-agent' to nil. Maybe the docs should explain ths more
>> prominently?
>
> Hmm, doesn't the "gnus agent" have other useful functions? I vaguely
> recall something about it like that... that it was for more than
> offline stuff.... maybe I'm just misremembering tho...
See the bottom paragraph below. Pretty cryptic, but it does imply that
you shouldn't disable the agent that way unless you like waiting.
,----[ C-h v gnus-agent RET ]
| gnus-agent is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
| Its value is t
|
| Documentation:
| Whether we want to use the Gnus agent or not.
|
| You may customize gnus-agent to disable its use. However, some
| back ends have started to use the agent as a client-side cache.
| Disabling the agent may result in noticeable loss of performance.
`----
--
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com
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