From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77788 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: can Gnus simply use the Emacs bug tracker? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137253 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77788 Archived-At: On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:23:56 -0400 Glenn Morris wrote: GM> Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> After some discussion on the Gnus mailing list we wanted to propose that >> Gnus simply use the Emacs bug tracker. Rationale: ... >> This will get fun when XEmacs users report bugs against Emacs+Gnus for >> XEmacs compatibility. So maybe for them we can set up a special bug >> category, passed to the bug tracker in the subject or in the headers. GM> That's not a complete solution though, because Gnus also supports older GM> Emacs releases, and we don't want those reports to go to the GM> bug-gnu-emacs list... There was a point where Gnus was merged into Emacs. Do we want that to be the separation point? Or do we want all non-trunk reports to go to Gnus only? I'm not sure. GM> Anyway, to some extent you can do this already. GM> For some time, "gnus" has existed as debbugs.gnu.org package, with a GM> maintainer address of bugs@gnus.org. This is why you will see numbered GM> bug mail from debbugs.gnu.org appearing at that address: either someone GM> reported a bug against the gnus package, or, more commonly, I reassigned GM> it from "emacs" to "emacs,gnus", so that subsequent mails go to both GM> addresses. I wondered how that worked. Thank you for the help. GM> So really all that is needed is to use "Package: gnus" in the first line GM> of a mail to submit@debbugs. Using "Package: emacs,gnus" causes both GM> bugs@gnus.org and bug-gnu-emacs to get mails. You can do this today with GM> zero other changes required. We can change `gnus-bug' to add the Package line according to the version logic from above. GM> With regards to making it more "official", personally I hesitate a bit. GM> debbugs.gnu.org is a GNU machine and the set-up is intended for GNU GM> projects. Do you regard Gnus as a GNU project? GNU Gnus? I know Gnus is GM> part of Emacs, but eg GM> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnus GM> does not exist, and I don't seem to find a statement on GM> http://www.gnus.org/. There don't seem to be any mentions in the Gnus GM> manual either. Stand-alone Gnus is not distributed on ftp.gnu.org. Etc, GM> etc. Sorry, I don't know the answers to those questions. Ted