From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69202 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mail mode vs message mode Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87lji236mt.fsf@iki.fi> References: <87639beb4n.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <876399p00j.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iqd8rh73.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87r5rvvknw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lji3od0l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258643462 11803 80.91.229.12 (19 Nov 2009 15:11:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Reiner Steib Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 19 16:10:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NB8es-0000YS-Nu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:10:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53757 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8es-0005OT-5a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8Ra-0005jM-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8RT-0005gK-5g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:57:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33209 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8RS-0005g8-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mta-out.inet.fi ([195.156.147.13]:42313 helo=kirsi2.inet.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NB8RS-0007AX-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mithlond.arda.local (84.251.132.215) by kirsi2.inet.fi (8.5.014) id 4A77692A04201B14; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:56:51 +0200 Original-Received: from dtw by mithlond.arda.local with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NB8R8-00018s-Gp; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:56:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87lji3od0l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:20:58 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117251 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69202 Archived-At: On 2009-11-18 20:20 (+0100), Reiner Steib wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Chong Yidong wrote: >> We can do it your way if you really object to making the message-mode >> options default to the corresponding mail-* options, but I'd like to >> know the reasoning first. (If any of the default values for the >> mail-* options grate, like mail-from-style, we can change them.) > > If the message-mode defaults aren't changed by deriving from mail-*, I > don't object. > > I'd certainly object to any change that makes message-mode less > "standard" compliant ("standards" like RFCs, GNKSA [1], good common > practice, ...). Changing the default `message-yank-prefix' to nil > violates GNKSA, item 10 b and c: Yes, please use "> " as *-yank-prefix. It's the only sane choice, the only one which is compatible with the world.