From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68061 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Agent & disconnected IMAP: move messages between folders? Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:33:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87ljtqn1l9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ocyoxhml.fsf@ashbery.wjsullivan.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231110921 9544 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2009 23:15:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:15:21 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16506@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jan 05 00:16:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJcCu-0007tx-5k for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:16:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJcBZ-0001RP-6l; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:15:09 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJcBX-0001R5-VD for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:15:07 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LJcBU-0008LT-Oc for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:15:07 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LJcBk-0008Qf-00 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:15:20 +0100 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LJcBS-0001xV-Kz for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: from cha51-2-82-244-211-40.fbx.proxad.net ([82.244.211.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: from xma by cha51-2-82-244-211-40.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:15:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cha51-2-82-244-211-40.fbx.proxad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YY6s0Yy9k8Wo6l7skNOSSDqbOU8= X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68061 Archived-At: John Sullivan writes: > Greg Troxel writes: > >> I don't think there is philosophical opposition to disconnected IMAP - >> it's just hard. Right now the agent seems to be a read-only cache of >> the server. With disconnected IMAP you keep log of operations to play >> back later. I don't know whether implementations typically modify the >> cache or play back the log locally when reading the cache, but I suspect >> the cache reflects the state with the log operations applied. All of >> this seems doable, and seems like a natural extension to the agent. You >> might want to look at the Coda filesystem for inspiration of how to deal >> with things, but Thunderbird might be more useful. It seems there >> should be an open-source disconnected-mode IMAP library. I wonder if >> it's just easier to use an offline IMAP proxy, and if those really >> support disconnected mode. > > I've been getting around this problem happily for a couple years now by > having gnus talk to a local IMAP server running right on my laptop > (courier in my case), and syncing to my upstream IMAP server with the > program offlineimap. I do that for mail and leafnode for nntp, and life > is pretty good offline. Just doing the same for a few days now and it really changed my life :) Until now, I used nnmaildir backend but I find it, erm, buggy thus I changed my mind and I am now logging to a local dovecot IMAP server. Revolutionary ! Xavier