From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67416 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Bug#499774: starttls is a joke Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:43:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87ljxi3oty.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <871vzca7gp.fsf@natisbad.org> <87y71kpmq7.fsf@bubble.risko.hu> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222181066 8884 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2008 14:44:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15867@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 23 16:45:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ki98l-00045H-5e for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:45:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ki975-0001jJ-VL; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ki974-0001j6-Qj for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:43:38 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ki96y-0005Lb-UJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:43:38 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ki973-0001Gu-00 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:43:37 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ki96w-0000Mt-G6 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:30 +0000 Original-Received: from maportatil10.quim.ucm.es ([147.96.7.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:30 +0000 Original-Received: from oub by maportatil10.quim.ucm.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:30 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: maportatil10.quim.ucm.es User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.19 (linux) X-Hashcash: 1:20:080923:gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general::Hw7xEOxF5zrByXic:0000000000000000000000000ePd X-Hashcash: 1:20:080923:gmane.emacs.gnus.general::nQ1V99Pun2K0SrqX:00000000000000000000000000000000000000+1O Cancel-Lock: sha1:7Ll0XEKnlpKoQBKZcuWxP+wNBvk= X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67416 Archived-At: >>>>> "RISKO" == RISKO Gergely writes: > I'm against the removal, since it will break imaps/pop3s connections > from emacs based muas (I'm at least sure in gnus, I use it hourly). > And I'm also against the removal, because this is a very good tool for > testing. I just want to support the attitude of *not* removing this packages. For me this is the only possibility of sending mail (using gmail smtp server) when I am not at work. Yes it might be broken, but right now I don't know of _any_ alternatives. Uwe Brauer