From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50166 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mattias Ahnberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: iso-8859-1 problems. Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:19:46 +0100 Organization: Ahnberg, that vampire guy. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87lm0d2kbh.fsf@paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se> References: <871y26ucde.fsf@paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se> <87bs19nwnd.fsf@paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se> <84d6lpuw49.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045614121 20441 80.91.224.249 (19 Feb 2003 00:22:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18lHzr-0005JV-00 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:21:59 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18lHy4-0007bV-00; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:20:08 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:21:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA19112 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:20:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 17024 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 2003 00:19:51 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 17019 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 00:19:51 -0000 Original-Received: from ahnberg.pp.se (HELO paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se) (root@195.54.156.154) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 00:19:51 -0000 Original-Received: from paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se (ahnberg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h1J0Jl6w012907 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:19:47 +0100 Original-Received: (from ahnberg@localhost) by paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id h1J0Jl7a012906; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:19:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoia.ahnberg.pp.se: ahnberg set sender to mattias@ahnberg.pp.se using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Ahn In-Reply-To: <84d6lpuw49.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de's message of "Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:17:26 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.09001 (Oort Gnus v0.10) Emacs/21.2 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50166 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50166 >> "KG" =3D=3D Kai Gro=DFjohann writes: KG> There are more differences. *nods* I just read about them. KG> Please note that iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-15 are different charsets KG> to Emacs, and Emacs does not have the concept of "similar" KG> charsets. Ok, I just thought it would be illogical if it would've been a font issue. But perhaps because I am not used to the idea of emacs and various charsets in this way. KG> If your terminal uses iso-8859-1 and you have a buffer containing KG> a character from another charset (be it iso-8859-2 or iso-8859-15 KG> or gb2312 or UTF-8), Emacs considers it different and shows `?' KG> instead. (Emacs has special treatment for ascii characters, so KG> these can be displayed from any charset that's a superset of KG> ascii.) Ok. But how do I solve the issue so that Emacs can understand both iso-8859-1 and iso-8859-15 in the same "terminal"? I get most e-mails in iso-8859-1 charset, but a select few in iso-8859-15, there must be some way to allow me to see both without problems with this. I just don't understand where to start looking or what the problem is that needs to be fixed. KG> You can use latin1-disp.el to teach Emacs about the concept of KG> "similar" charsets. I've loaded latin1-disp without much happening to differ from what I experienced to begin with. I read the .el file but didn't notice what would affect me, latin1-display-sets variable contains both Latin-1 and Latin-9, which should cover the two I've mentioned above. /ahnberg.