From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44679 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Annoying new features in newer Oorts Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 15:19:10 +0200 Organization: Denizens of Doom, Norway Chapter Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87lmayhgvl.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> References: <3229147191814452@oakhurst.yi.org> <6usn5d4jia.fsf@zork.zork.net> <3229150801659975@oakhurst.yi.org> <3229343185064781@oakhurst.yi.org> <6u8z72czxn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ubsbxadgb.fsf@zork.zork.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020604875 6821 127.0.0.1 (5 May 2002 13:21:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174Lwx-0001lo-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 15:21:15 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 174LvF-0006iG-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 08:19:30 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 05 May 2002 08:19:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28890 for ; Sun, 5 May 2002 08:19:32 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 1255 invoked by alias); 5 May 2002 13:19:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1250 invoked from network); 5 May 2002 13:19:12 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 5 May 2002 13:19:12 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174M1a-0008Kh-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 15:26:02 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 22 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: b48sfn.cm.chello.no Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1020605162 30580 213.46.211.96 (5 May 2002 13:26:02 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 May 2002 13:26:02 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i386-debian-linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tWs6vfz8OJoSKSPR7Tu88m1VauU= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44679 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44679 >>>>> Sean Neakums : > commence Karl Eichwalder quotation: >> Sean Neakums writes: >>> Then change the binding as suggested in two separate posts, and >>> get on with your life. >> Note, it isn't nice to steal default keys. Emacs, for good reason, >> is very conservative. > This is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. I don't think it is ridiculous. I think his argument makes perfect sense. The current `C-a' in message mode, breaks with my expectation of `C-a'. I know I can rebind the keybinding, and I even know how to do it. The discussion is about whether the current `C-a' in message mode is a good binding or not. My vote is that it isn't.