no more japaneese :-(

no more japaneese :-(

[Didier Verna]

        For some reason, I can't read japanese messages anymore (especially
the ones that I get on xemacs-mule). More precisely, the subject is correctly
displayed (with whatever kanji, hiragana or anything that's in), but not the
body.

        I think this started with pgnus 0.84. Does anybody else see this ?

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Didier Verna]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:
> 
> > For some reason, I can't read japanese messages anymore (especially
> > the ones that I get on xemacs-mule). More precisely, the subject is
> > correctly displayed (with whatever kanji, hiragana or anything
> > that's in), but not the body.
> 
> It seems to work for me.

        The problem seems to be a gnus problem: loading the mail as a file in
XEmacs displays the japanese correctly. It's only in gnus that the
`Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP' part doesn't seem to be
honored.


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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> The problem seems to be a gnus problem: loading the mail as a file
> in XEmacs displays the japanese correctly. It's only in gnus that
> the `Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP' part doesn't
> seem to be honored.

Yes, but...  I use Gnus too, and I see it right.  Or at least I think
it's right (I don't know Japanese.)  I can mail you a screenshot if
you wish.

Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

>         For some reason, I can't read japanese messages anymore (especially
> the ones that I get on xemacs-mule). More precisely, the subject is correctly
> displayed (with whatever kanji, hiragana or anything that's in), but not the
> body.
> 
>         I think this started with pgnus 0.84. Does anybody else see this ?

Not me.  The xemacs-mule messages look all purty (and incomprehensible 
:-) to me.

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Didier Verna]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> >         I think this started with pgnus 0.84. Does anybody else see this ?
> 
> Not me.  The xemacs-mule messages look all purty (and incomprehensible 
> :-) to me.

        OK. Where should I look first ? How and when are the multipart/mixed;
treated ?

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Didier Verna]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> OK. Where should I look first ? How and when are the multipart/mixed;
> treated ?

        AFAICS, decoding the multiparts gives me several " *mm*" buffers.
Those buffers contain each japanese part, but *not decoded*. I've traced the
gnus-mime-display-* functions, but the encoding is never taken into account.

        Is it normal that the " *mm*" buffers doesn't show the japanese
characters ? If so, when are those characters supposed to appear ?

Thx

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

>         Is it normal that the " *mm*" buffers doesn't show the japanese
> characters ?

Yes.

> If so, when are those characters supposed to appear ?

After CTE decoding; that is -- when they are displayed by Gnus (or
whatever). 

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Jan Vroonhof]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

>         OK. Where should I look first ? How and when are the multipart/mixed;
> treated ?
> 

Do you have a language environment set? If so, you should try without
one.

Jan

Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

>         OK. Where should I look first ? How and when are the multipart/mixed;
> treated ?

In `gnus-mime-display-alternative' in gnus-art.el, for instance.

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Didier Verna]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Not me. The xemacs-mule messages look all purty (and incomprehensible :-) to
> me.

        I got it. For some reason, enable-multibyte-characters was set to nil
in my XEmacs session. I haven't figured out what did it yet. All places where
gnus (temporarily) changes the default value seem to be properly
unwind-protect'ed. 

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

>         I got it. For some reason, enable-multibyte-characters was set to nil
> in my XEmacs session.

Huh.  I didn't think that variable had any effect in XEmacs...

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Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:
> 
> > I got it. For some reason, enable-multibyte-characters was set to
> > nil in my XEmacs session.
> 
> Huh.  I didn't think that variable had any effect in XEmacs...

It doesn't, as far as XEmacs is concerned.  But if code A sets it to
nil, and code B checks whether it's nil, then there you have an
effect.

Re: no more japaneese :-(

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> It doesn't, as far as XEmacs is concerned.  But if code A sets it to
> nil, and code B checks whether it's nil, then there you have an
> effect.

Yup.

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