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* Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP
@ 2025-01-11 20:06 Bob Newell
  2025-01-12  1:53 ` Björn Bidar
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  0 siblings, 3 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bob Newell @ 2025-01-11 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Aloha,

Three things in one, perhaps should have been separate
messages but that seemed spammish and the issues are related.

1. Believe it or not I can't find anything anywhere about
setting up a vacation auto-responder in gnus.  My purpose here
is actually to send an auto-response that I don't read
business email on weekends, for mail sent to said business
address on the weekend.  Okay, with a lot of frustration due
to lack of knowledge, I set up something that sort of mostly
works by using splitting and specifying a function as the
splitting recipe.  However ...

2. If I fetch mail with (effectively) gnus-group-get-new-news,
splitting runs as it should.  But if I fetch mail with
(effectively) gnus-group-get-new-news-this-group, splitting
does not run.  My tracing-gnus-fu is not good enough for me to
as yet have figured out why this may be.  And this matters
because ...

3. When fetching with gnus-group-get-new-news, as noted
splitting runs.  This is all fine if my web browser is not
open to my email service (fastmail in my case).  However, if
the browser is open and there is new mail showing in the
browser, gnus-group-get-new-news won't download it.  However
gnus-group-get-new-news this group (if *Group* is positioned
to INBOX) actually will download this new mail--- but then
splitting won't run.

Can anyone give me any tips here?  Has someone else set up an
autoresponder in gnus?  Can anyone clarifiy 2 and 3, namely
when splitting runs and how -new-news and -new-news-this-group
differ in how they download from an IMAP server?

Mahalo for any thoughts ...

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

- Via GNU-Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB


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* Re: Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP
  2025-01-11 20:06 Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP Bob Newell
@ 2025-01-12  1:53 ` Björn Bidar
  2025-01-13  9:33 ` Eric S Fraga
  2025-01-15  0:48 ` James Thomas
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Björn Bidar @ 2025-01-12  1:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bob Newell; +Cc: ding

Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net> writes:

> 1. Believe it or not I can't find anything anywhere about
> setting up a vacation auto-responder in gnus.  My purpose here
> is actually to send an auto-response that I don't read
> business email on weekends, for mail sent to said business
> address on the weekend.  Okay, with a lot of frustration due
> to lack of knowledge, I set up something that sort of mostly
> works by using splitting and specifying a function as the
> splitting recipe.  However ...

Why not do that with sieve instead? You wouldn't have toe relay
on your computer being on.


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* Re: Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP
  2025-01-11 20:06 Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP Bob Newell
  2025-01-12  1:53 ` Björn Bidar
@ 2025-01-13  9:33 ` Eric S Fraga
  2025-01-15  0:48 ` James Thomas
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2025-01-13  9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Response below/inline for email Bob Newell wrote:
> (original email sent 11 Jan 2025 at 10:06)

I cannot give you any answers that will help but maybe some which might
explain what you are saying.

> 1. Believe it or not I can't find anything anywhere about
> setting up a vacation auto-responder in gnus.  

My understanding is that vacation auto-responding is a function of the
server, not the mail reader. 

> 2. If I fetch mail with (effectively) gnus-group-get-new-news,
> splitting runs as it should.  But if I fetch mail with
> (effectively) gnus-group-get-new-news-this-group, splitting
> does not run.  

Because the splitting is done when retrieving the emails, not when you
open up a particular group.  A group that is only the recipient of split
emails will not necessarily poll the server.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 31.0.50 2024-07-16) on Debian 12.0



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* Re: Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP
  2025-01-11 20:06 Vacation auto-responder; splitting; fetching IMAP Bob Newell
  2025-01-12  1:53 ` Björn Bidar
  2025-01-13  9:33 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2025-01-15  0:48 ` James Thomas
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: James Thomas @ 2025-01-15  0:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

Bob Newell writes:

> Aloha,
>
> Three things in one, perhaps should have been separate
> messages but that seemed spammish and the issues are related.
>
> 1. Believe it or not I can't find anything anywhere about
> setting up a vacation auto-responder in gnus.  My purpose here
> is actually to send an auto-response that I don't read
> business email on weekends, for mail sent to said business
> address on the weekend.  Okay, with a lot of frustration due
> to lack of knowledge, I set up something that sort of mostly
> works by using splitting and specifying a function as the
> splitting recipe.  However ...
>
> 2. If I fetch mail with (effectively) gnus-group-get-new-news,
> splitting runs as it should.  But if I fetch mail with
> (effectively) gnus-group-get-new-news-this-group, splitting
> does not run.  My tracing-gnus-fu is not good enough for me to
> as yet have figured out why this may be.  And this matters
> because ...

Makes sense to me: Splitting is, for a server, _among_ groups: should
not happen for a particular group.

> 3. When fetching with gnus-group-get-new-news, as noted
> splitting runs.  This is all fine if my web browser is not
> open to my email service (fastmail in my case).  However, if
> the browser is open and there is new mail showing in the
> browser, gnus-group-get-new-news won't download it.  However
> gnus-group-get-new-news this group (if *Group* is positioned
> to INBOX) actually will download this new mail--- but then
> splitting won't run.

That should be down to your email service, but IIUC the hooks in (info
"(gnus) Washing Mail") are run even "before storing". Perhaps that would
be better than (ab)using Splitting.

> Can anyone give me any tips here?  Has someone else set up an
> autoresponder in gnus?

Not me, I'm never on vacation: either working, or working on emacs :-)

--


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