From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (mx1.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.32]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91C62555E for ; Sun, 12 May 2024 00:34:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5vIF-00000006AEE-3QXF for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 17:34:15 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5vIF-00000004OqJ-2AYS for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 17:34:15 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5vIC-00000004OqA-2aNo for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 11 May 2024 17:34:12 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5vI9-00000006ADJ-1m0Q for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 11 May 2024 17:34:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UAhBPDURHZXxpSQayo9vNVImLUT2zzwGkz50XSCYnQ8=; b=WWvltwI5xwbAiYWHp+z18QUI8v pKnnkWmiTdEfb/4+9sqplWSxW1230vFV/B5lss1Qj/06OhkDin4QvMFf1GhhTQ2nH9SMnEMwY1S3Y uGJ0ApRQsQvSyg6Mo3zLDNSNvYKwUgTsbLZnYVZTD93ub/8QoiAx4pQY401K80iSKI0U=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5vI1-0007iJ-UH for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 00:34:04 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5vHz-0004ec-JJ for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 00:34:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Gnus sometimes reports new messages but not showing them on IMAP server Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 15:33:50 -0700 Message-ID: <87msow9dwx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87h6g7mm8r.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <878r1blqcg.fsf@uwo.ca> <87ttjx55ey.fsf@uwo.ca> <875xwalmf4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmoqjf92.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jbmk2ql.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87msoyfoo4.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87plttctyy.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:oRdF7rPsViYNY8WZqBLouzsE/Qk= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Greg Troxel writes: > Xiyue Deng writes: > >>> This was nnimap in my case, with emacs and dovecot on the same machine >>> if that matters. >> >> Ah I see. Then probably the IMAP implementation of Outlook is just bad >> ;-) > > I believe there is a gnus bug that I am hitting, and that others are > too. > > I am entirely willing to believe the the theory that there is also a bug > in Outlook IMAP.... I was going to say, the IMAP implementation of Outlook is indeed bad! But that's "good" that you're hitting this issue with Dovecot running locally, as that's a setup with fewer confounding variables, and also what I run, so maybe we stand a better chance of reproducing. Maybe it's time to dive in :( Greg, if you're willing, would you provide as much details as possible about your setup, and anything/everything you can remember about what happened/happens before you see this error? All your nnimap settings are of interest, obviously, but you might as well send anything that could possibly be relevant, off-list if you'd prefer. And if you do see the error crop up again, please let us know what you were doing immediately before, and if at all possible, leave Gnus in the broken state until we can do some remote debugging. Thanks! Eric