From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24574 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2022 12:50:44 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Feb 2022 12:50:44 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFbZT-0087D9-5L for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 06:50:43 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFbZS-003tDT-M9 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 06:50:42 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFbZR-003tDN-LT for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 06:50:41 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nFbZK-0087Cl-9D for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 06:50:41 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=x9h9VKwnWxft/On8FtfTa2enwQCvhOKHSt3a4N0S5NU=; b=Zi4VDZUOzoRbE0W/CwwWi2oUNd +A4o/PoBql6a6Kw3TzjAeZazOvAh6MUdooFfY3uExqfQkPIBFU+do+Gsq5AzkffNUdUgpQPEojV9h I2364/ChWW+i/XlxkRioQRp0nJe76e/vazl/Z6EQ6tfi7eMa5u0gCC0YDckMs2M5mUuU=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nFbZA-0000CY-9y for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:50:29 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nFbZ6-0002td-Mh for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:50:20 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: feature request: differentiate between read and automatically marked read Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 12:50:14 +0000 Organization: On the Interweb somewhere Message-ID: <87mtj85d2x.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87pmo41ghm.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87v8xw87bn.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PFnwFOSeyDpQDGwQM2LvozoxxIU= X-Url: http://twitter.com/ericsfraga/ List-ID: Precedence: bulk On Thursday, 3 Feb 2022 at 07:26, dick wrote: > You'd be the first person or bot I've heard say this. I've never been called a bot before. :-) > From Gnus Manual Section 8.6 "Initial impressions seem to indicate that > it's [i.e., adaptive scoring] totally useless as it stands." > > Like most Gnus things, scoring is a bear to configure, but worse, its > default bag-of-words approach would get it wrong most of the time. Well, it works for me. Yes, I spent some time getting the weights right for the various actions used for scoring but, at the very least, it does sort my emails in order of decreasing relevance/importance most of the time. And it does a good job of automatically marking as read emails that I am seldom going to read. Also works well for some of the newsgroups (e.g. emacs.help and emacs.devel) and some rss feeds (arxiv). For the record, my settings are: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist '(;(gnus-kill-file-mark) ;;(gnus-unread-mark) ;; (gnus-read-mark (from 5) (subject 30)) (gnus-replied-mark (from 50) (subject 10)) (gnus-read-mark (from 30) (subject 10)) (gnus-cached-mark (from 30) (subject 10)) (gnus-forwarded-mark (from 10) (subject 5)) (gnus-saved-mark (from 10) (subject 5)) (gnus-expirable-mark (from 0) (subject 0)) (gnus-catchup-mark (from -5) (subject -30)) (gnus-killed-mark (subject -100)) (gnus-del-mark (from -10) (subject -50))) gnus-default-adaptive-word-score-alist '((42 . 3) ;cached (65 . 2) ;replied (70 . 1) ;forwarded (82 . 1) ;read (67 . -1) ;catchup (69 . 0) ;expired (75 . -3) ;killed (114 . -3)) ;deleted ) #+end_src and I've been using these now for a few years. I should add that I do have some fixed scores as well so, for instance, emails to me from the PhD students I supervise always score high no matter what the subject is. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2