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From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: threading display strange
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 22:55:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muk88rae.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lfzsapiy.fsf@gnu.org>

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> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Those are all invalid.  The variables' values must all be lists, and in
> order to negate an entry, you'd turn it into a list with car equal to
> not, e.g., it should be:

> (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
>       '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-number)
> 	(not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date)))


I tried that out, and it did not result in what I want

> Sorry, I don't see how the sorting is here.  Converted to UTC, the times
> here are

> - 13:30:41
> - 09:35:45
> - 02:00:07
> - 08:00:27
> - 18:04:34

> and they are not ordered monotonically.  So which criterion do you
> actually want to use for sorting.



Well if the date and time is too messy, I'd say I would like to sort by
number, but I want it montonically indepent whether threading is on or off

So again.

With threading on I see


 57606 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19])    ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6   
     57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer  [                         ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13   
 57621 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[stuff] (was: [CV])      ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16   
 57585 [  tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li  [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165   
 57593 [  users    ] oub@mat.uc  [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11   


But it should be displayed as 

 57606 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19])    ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6   
     57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer  [                         ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13   
 57585 [  tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li  [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165   
 57593 [  users    ] oub@mat.uc  [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11   
 57621 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[stuff] (was: [CV])      ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16   


That is what Thunderbird does and it looks more natural to me. 
Did I explain clear enough what I want?


With treading off I see (when switching again to sort by numbers)

[]{ }O  57619 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [Mail Archives            ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:46:43 +0200 0.7k 2   
[]{ }O  57621 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[stuff] (was: [CV])      ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16   
[]{ }O  57622 [  Uwe Braue] JUAN JULIA  [Re: Final de las clase   ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:11:26 +0200 8.7k 14   


That is fine, just don't understand why gnus sorts:


 57606 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19])    ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6   
     57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer  [                         ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13   
 57621 [  Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer  [[stuff] (was: [CV])      ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16   
 57585 [  tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li  [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165   
 57593 [  users    ] oub@mat.uc  [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11   



> (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number
> 				   gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date
> 				   gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score)
>       gnus-subthread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number
> 				      gnus-article-sort-by-date))

I tried that out did not work.

> This gives me high-score threads on top, and when the thread scores are
> equal, the thread with a newer message is above the other.

> Inside a thread, e.g., when there are multiple replies to the very same
> article, I sort chronologically with older above newer messages (so that
> I don't read the second reply before the first).

Right, I do the same



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  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-29 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-28  9:34 Uwe Brauer
2019-04-29  5:13 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-29  6:53   ` Uwe Brauer
2019-04-29  9:26     ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-29 10:27       ` Uwe Brauer
2019-04-29 11:06         ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-29 12:40           ` Uwe Brauer
2019-04-29 13:51             ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-29 20:55               ` Uwe Brauer [this message]
2019-04-30  4:20                 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-30  7:37                   ` Uwe Brauer
2019-04-30  8:32                     ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-30 10:51                       ` Uwe Brauer

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