From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88543 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: threading display strange Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 22:55:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87muk88rae.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <875zqyo4lo.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87y33t9ywy.fsf@gnu.org> <871s1ljo9w.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tveh9n81.fsf@gnu.org> <87ftq1hzsu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87pnp59ild.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1fdassw.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lfzsapiy.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="99626"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36746@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Apr 29 22:57:06 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hLDKi-000PfC-CC for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 22:57:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hLDJx-0000vR-9D; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:56:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hLDJq-0000sV-Kx for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:56:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hLDJo-0003em-Sk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:56:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hLDJk-0003mp-DN for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 22:56:06 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hLDJk-000Oa3-6Y for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 22:56:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never Header: Newsgroups Cancel-Lock: sha1:74l6IKWhaUFIHWlLlZ+eolMNwME= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88543 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Uwe Brauer writes: > Those are all invalid. The variables' values must all be lists, and in > order to negate an entry, you'd turn it into a list with car equal to > not, e.g., it should be: > (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions > '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-number) > (not gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date))) I tried that out, and it did not result in what I want > Sorry, I don't see how the sorting is here. Converted to UTC, the times > here are > - 13:30:41 > - 09:35:45 > - 02:00:07 > - 08:00:27 > - 18:04:34 > and they are not ordered monotonically. So which criterion do you > actually want to use for sorting. Well if the date and time is too messy, I'd say I would like to sort by number, but I want it montonically indepent whether threading is on or off So again. With threading on I see 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6=20=20=20 57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer [ ] Sun, 28 Ap= r 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13=20=20=20 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16=20=20=20 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165=20=20=20 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11=20=20=20 But it should be displayed as=20 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6=20=20=20 57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer [ ] Sun, 28 Ap= r 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13=20=20=20 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165=20=20=20 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11=20=20=20 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16=20=20=20 That is what Thunderbird does and it looks more natural to me.=20 Did I explain clear enough what I want? With treading off I see (when switching again to sort by numbers) []{ }O 57619 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [Mail Archives ] Sun, 28= Apr 2019 15:46:43 +0200 0.7k 2=20=20=20 []{ }O 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28= Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16=20=20=20 []{ }O 57622 [ Uwe Braue] JUAN JULIA [Re: Final de las clase ] Sun, 28= Apr 2019 16:11:26 +0200 8.7k 14=20=20=20 That is fine, just don't understand why gnus sorts: 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6=20=20=20 57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer [ ] Sun, 28 Ap= r 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13=20=20=20 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16=20=20=20 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165=20=20=20 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 20= 19 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11=20=20=20 > (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number > gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date > gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score) > gnus-subthread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number > gnus-article-sort-by-date)) I tried that out did not work. > This gives me high-score threads on top, and when the thread scores are > equal, the thread with a newer message is above the other. > Inside a thread, e.g., when there are multiple replies to the very same > article, I sort chronologically with older above newer messages (so that > I don't read the second reply before the first). 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