From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88267 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Marks added in nnir search buffers don't propagate to the actual groups? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:05:03 -0800 Message-ID: <87muptvx9c.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543431862 8247 195.159.176.226 (28 Nov 2018 19:04:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:04:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36477@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Nov 28 20:04:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gS58E-00020l-80 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:04:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gS59M-0006qf-Ne; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:05:28 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gS59C-0006mg-Dw for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:05:18 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gS59A-0003Oh-NJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:05:18 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gS599-00058m-DX for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:05:15 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gS56z-0000Os-Cp for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:03:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:vIvu1HUawiZ3wcyeAaB1zlDoQH4= X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.4.2 2018-09-13) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.2985 Ham tokens: 0.000-195--7287h-0s--0d--buffers, 0.000-47--1733h-0s--0d--H*M:fsf, 0.000-46--1710h-0s--0d--H*MI:fsf, 0.000-38--1403h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-37--1382h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs Spam tokens: 0.997-33053--644h-27208s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.995-34037--1053h-28333s--0d--HTo:D*gnus.org, 0.994-2192--81h-1835s--0d--Hx-spam-relays-external:quimby.gnus.org, 0.994-2192--81h-1835s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.993-35019--1364h-29377s--0d--Hx-spam-relays-internal:quimby.gnus.org Autolearn status: no autolearn_force=no -0.0 BAYES_40 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 20 to 40% [score: 0.2985] 0.0 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88267 Archived-At: Can anyone confirm that changes to marks made in an nnir search buffer don't propagate to the real articles? Eg you search for an article, remove its read mark, and then expect to find it unread in the "real" underlying group. Or you tick it, or whatever. This is something I noticed ages ago, but sort of figured it was a problem in my config, but now I've looked into it and so far as I can tell this is just the way it works. When I search an nnimap group, and tick an article in the resulting nnir summary buffer, I can see that nnir asks the nnimap backend about updating the mark, but the mark is never actually set. `gnus-summary-exit' is supposed to apply all marks to the backend, but it very carefully doesn't do that for ephemeral groups (and that code is ancient). I sure thought this used to work, though. Maybe nnir used to apply marks immediately (ie, not waiting for summary exit), but doesn't anymore? Am I just dreaming? Does anyone have any idea of how this is supposed to work? Thanks, Eric