From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82728 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What is a "virtual" group? Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:59:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87mwx1rgq1.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87obl6ck1p.fsf@dod.no> <87vcbqs4fo.fsf@gnus.org> <878v8lvpp3.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356469171 20979 80.91.229.3 (25 Dec 2012 20:59:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Dave Abrahams Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30994@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 25 21:59:43 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TnbbC-0006Az-FH for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:59:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnbar-0000fd-OZ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:59:21 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnbaq-0000fM-D2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:59:20 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnbam-0008AI-AW for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:59:20 -0600 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnbak-0003Gk-Fi for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:59:14 +0100 Original-Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnbab-0008Em-N1; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:59:06 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:51:58 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1Tnbab-0008Em-N1 MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357073946.54926@//1qHncOyyY3qrGHu8/txw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82728 Archived-At: Dave Abrahams writes: > OK, thanks. That's very clear. In trying to suggest corresponding > documentation edits, though, I arrive at 6.7.1 Virtual Groups in the > manual and find: > > An "nnvirtual group" is really nothing more than a collection of > other groups. It's a virtual group as far as the user is concerned. The word "virtual" is reused as a backend property to mean something else. >>> * Should an nndoc group be considered virtual? >> >> No. > > Interesting. So how do we ever get here: > > http://git.gnus.org/cgit/gnus.git/tree/lisp/gnus-sum.el#n9253 I'm not sure what the question is? It tries to open an nnvirtual group and then says something about not being able to do so if it can't? >>> * Does the check for virtual-ness in gnus-warp-to-article actually >>> belong there? After all, real groups shouldn't implement the >>> warp-to-article backend function, should they? >> >> I don't know. > > Would you be open to a patch that removes the check? I'm not familiar with that code. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen