* How does Lars read Ding? @ 2011-08-22 13:35 jidanni 2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: jidanni @ 2011-08-22 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding How does Lars read Ding? If he reads it on http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org which is quite a shame. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-22 13:35 How does Lars read Ding? jidanni @ 2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni 2011-09-10 22:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-22 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jidanni; +Cc: ding jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > How does Lars read Ding? Usually one message after the other. :-) SCNR > If he reads it on > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general > like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article > http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org > which is quite a shame. How should anyone read it on ding, no matter how he reads the latter? You've posted that message to gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen... Bye, Tassilo -- Sent from my Emacs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni 2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-09-10 22:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: jidanni @ 2011-08-22 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tassilo; +Cc: ding >>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: >> If he reads it on >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general >> like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article >> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org >> which is quite a shame. TH> How should anyone read it on ding, no matter how he reads the latter? TH> You've posted that message to gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen... And one other group, but the message will only show up in the first group, unless one has NNTP, which LarDs :) better have, as this is a pretty big bug... the bigger the bug, the more one wants to crosspost it, but even one crosspost, and Lar*s will never see it... :( ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni @ 2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-23 7:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jidanni; +Cc: ding jidanni@jidanni.org writes: Hi! >>> If he reads it on >>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general >>> like some of us, then he will miss out on my hit article >>> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org >>> which is quite a shame. > > TH> How should anyone read it on ding, no matter how he reads the latter? > TH> You've posted that message to gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen... > > And one other group, but the message will only show up in the first > group, unless one has NNTP, which LarDs :) better have, as this is a > pretty big bug... Oh, I see. Your mail is in my ding box (ding, the mailing list), but it seems not to be on gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Seems to be a Gmane bug... With respect to your .newsrc.eld issue: Katsumi already told you how to fix it. And of course, using a snapshot version can be a bit risky at times, so you should know what you are doing. That said, emacs and gnus are usually very stable even in their development versions. I use the dev versions of both and update them every two days, and didn't hit your issue. > the bigger the bug, the more one wants to crosspost it, but even one > crosspost, and Lar*s will never see it... :( I think, you should explain the crossposting issue on gmane.discuss. Bye, Tassilo -- Sent from my Emacs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-08-23 10:36 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-08-23 9:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:00:24 +0200, Tassilo wrote: > jidanni@jidanni.org writes: >>>> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org [...] > Oh, I see. Your mail is in my ding box (ding, the mailing list), but it > seems not to be on gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Seems to be a Gmane bug... Uhm: $ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news.gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):' Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79706 $ Best regards, Adam -- "Vi är små citroner" Adam Sjøgren asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-08-23 10:36 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-08-29 1:22 ` jidanni 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-23 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> Oh, I see. Your mail is in my ding box (ding, the mailing list), but >> it seems not to be on gmane.emacs.gnus.general. Seems to be a Gmane >> bug... > > Uhm: > > $ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news.gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):' > Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org> > Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79706 Strange. Now the mid search http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org shows Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen, gmane.emacs.gnus.general for that article. I was kinda sure it was only the former group yesterday. Probably, I'm getting old... Bye, Tassilo -- Sent from my Emacs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-23 10:36 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2011-08-29 1:22 ` jidanni 2011-08-29 1:41 ` Dave Abrahams 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: jidanni @ 2011-08-29 1:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tassilo; +Cc: ding >>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: TH> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> $ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news.gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):' >> Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org> >> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79706 TH> Strange. Now the mid search TH> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org TH> shows TH> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen, gmane.emacs.gnus.general TH> for that article. I was kinda sure it was only the former group TH> yesterday. Probably, I'm getting old... No. It is a bug that {the gmane administrators} refuse to fix. The bug is: even though * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/2690 * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79706 both exist, you will always see that article in * http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/ and never in * http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/ because only the first group of a crosspost gets indexed. B U G. BB UU GG. "But who cares, right, because everything works fine if you read instead via NNTP, so we'll fix it around year 2038, because nobody reads via the web interface." is probably the thinking of the executive staff :-( ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-29 1:22 ` jidanni @ 2011-08-29 1:41 ` Dave Abrahams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Dave Abrahams @ 2011-08-29 1:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding on Sun Aug 28 2011, jidanni-AT-jidanni.org wrote: > No. It is a bug that {the gmane administrators} refuse to fix. > The bug is: even though > * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/2690 > * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79706both exist, you will always see that article in > * http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/and never in > * http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/because only the first group of a crosspost gets indexed. B U G. BB UU GG. > > "But who cares, right, because everything works fine if you read instead > via NNTP, so we'll fix it around year 2038, because nobody reads via the > web interface." is probably the thinking of the executive staff :-( Uhm, the "executive staff" is Lars, the same generous soul who brings you Gnus for free. If you could do better, please, go for it! -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-23 7:00 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-08-23 9:06 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni 2011-09-29 8:36 ` Ted Zlatanov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: jidanni @ 2011-08-23 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tassilo; +Cc: ding >>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: TH> I think, you should explain the crossposting issue on gmane.discuss. Yes I've already done that there many times. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-23 11:38 ` jidanni @ 2011-09-29 8:36 ` Ted Zlatanov 2011-10-01 2:59 ` jidanni 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-09-29 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:38:35 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: >>>>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: TH> I think, you should explain the crossposting issue on gmane.discuss. j> Yes I've already done that there many times. ...so you post on the Gnus mailing list, which has nothing to do with the bug, with a misleading title? Don't you think that's rude, if not to Lars, at least to the rest of us? Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-09-29 8:36 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-10-01 2:59 ` jidanni 2011-10-03 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: jidanni @ 2011-10-01 2:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding >>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: TZ> ...so you post on the Gnus mailing list, which has nothing to do with TZ> the bug, with a misleading title? Don't you think that's rude, if not TZ> to Lars, at least to the rest of us? Well one needs to crosspost to prove the bug exists, right? And one needs to prove the bug exists to get someone to fix it, right? And now you agree I have proved the bug, right? And now it will never get fixed, right? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-10-01 2:59 ` jidanni @ 2011-10-03 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-10-03 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:59:31 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: >>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: TZ> ...so you post on the Gnus mailing list, which has nothing to do with TZ> the bug, with a misleading title? Don't you think that's rude, if not TZ> to Lars, at least to the rest of us? j> Well one needs to crosspost to prove the bug exists, right? j> And one needs to prove the bug exists to get someone to fix it, right? j> And now you agree I have proved the bug, right? I agree it's good to prove the bug exists. But you did it in a rude way. j> And now it will never get fixed, right? Please ask in a different forum. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: How does Lars read Ding? 2011-08-22 14:04 ` Tassilo Horn 2011-08-22 22:28 ` jidanni @ 2011-09-10 22:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-10 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: > Usually one message after the other. :-) SCNR Yeah, but the last ones first. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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