From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79167 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: getting nndiary to work Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:46:08 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87mxh8o07j.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <87wrgdk3r0.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308854799 9165 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2011 18:46:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:46:39 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M27466@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jun 23 20:46:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZovB-000808-Mq for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:46:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QZous-0005XK-E6; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QZour-0005X8-7g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:46:13 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QZouq-0005wy-5r for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:46:13 -0500 Original-Received: from static.73.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.179.73]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QZouo-0008Bb-7d for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:46:10 +0200 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QZoum-00041v-Ko for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:46:08 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Didier Verna's message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:33:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1841--5929h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1712--5512h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1643--5291h-0s--0d--H*u:linux, 0.000-1643--5291h-0s--0d--H*UA:linux, 0.000-1592--5126h-0s--0d--H*u:gnu Spam tokens: 0.956-4117--1375h-51455s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.925-238--192h-4027s--0d--H*r:sk:static., 0.881-1442--4080h-51735s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.881-1442--4080h-51735s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.881-1267--3683h-46381s--0d--H*Ad:D*gnus.org Autolearn status: no -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79167 Archived-At: Didier Verna writes: > Steinar Bang wrote: > >> What I've been missing with nndiary is a good step-by-step example >> that explains how to use it. > > Maybe I should re-read the documentation again, and see if I can come > up with a quick start section. There are a few things that could be improved upon in the documentation: * The documentation doesn't mention that one must create the nndiary group manually for it to appear in the group view. * It is unclear if one needs to set nndiary-split-methods. * If is unclear if one needs to set nndiary-reminders. There's no description about what to set it to. * There has been a discussion on this list concerning nndiary-get-new-mail in 2007. The question was whether nndiary-get-new-mail is a server variable or not and if it needs to be set when adding the nndiary backend to gnus-secondary-select-methods, or if it can be set independently. Some of the articles of this discussion were not available on gmane (anymore). The conclusion seemed to be that nndiary-get-new-mail is a server variable. I found that when setting it in the backend specification as suggested in the discussion, byte-compiling gnus.el yields an error message about it. The documentation tells one to just set it with a setq-statement somewhere. > the idea is that the "diary behavior" should not depend on any backend > at all. Ideally, you want any article to behave in a diary-fashion, so > you add the proper set of extra headers[1] to the article and then, it > pops up as new from time to time, according to your reminder settings, > whether it be from nnml, gmail, nntp, whatever. Yes, that's one of the things I'd have use for: a way to tell gnus to show me a particular message (email) at a specified date and time. It would also be nice if I could add comments to messages, like a comment telling me why I have made it so that gnus shows me the message just then. The other thing I'm looking for is a calendar application like plan or korganizer for the overview they provide, showing me a whole month and its weeks and the reminders for each day. Such application must be able to send reminders by email --- and their inability to do that is what keeps me from using plan or korganizer. I haven't really tried calendar applications available in emacs yet. Perhaps there's already one that does what I need? > Footnotes: > [1] not even the current X-Diary ones. Maybe something more cal-like. Hm. The way they are, they have their advantages. Another header could be added, like "X-Diary-simple", which just takes a date and time and assumes the current time zone: X-Dairy-simple: 2011-06-23, 21:00 That would send me a reminder in about 14 minutes from now :)