From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78114 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent/fetch only articles from certain levels Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:38:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87mxkg31mq.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87zkokei6u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <3waagj1nen.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87lj03v23l.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zkojjioy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <8762r79fb0.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ipv69ahl.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871v1uaopg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301249477 18927 80.91.229.12 (27 Mar 2011 18:11:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:11:17 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26425@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Mar 27 20:11:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3uQb-0001cR-Jv for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:11:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3uQD-0006yY-26; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:10:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3tuw-0006n5-AJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3tul-00013q-NM for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from vscane-b.ucl.ac.uk ([144.82.108.141]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3tui-00032T-J4 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:38:08 +0200 Original-Received: from [85.210.134.252] (helo=localhost) by vscane-b.ucl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3tug-00074A-2T for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:38:06 +0100 X-Face: av6A"vZ{AypDB`d^.T35oG%$E*Qh]4F)K=*$-NHz5{7WZfAFQFB]F@gf}l9`XLs9(iD?D/! nafKE,S#G!4W/flj=9(U{]t'lP,,5~:s*~;kKR Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <871v1uaopg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:13:15 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-UCL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the UCL Helpdesk, helpdesk@ucl.ac.uk for more information X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UCL-MailScanner-From: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78114 Archived-At: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj=C3=B8gren) writes: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:05:42 +0000, Eric wrote: > >> Adam, thanks for the pointer to the relevant place in the manual. My >> guess was basically completely wrong. Oh well... > >> However, I am not sure the documentation really explains anything at >> all. > > How did you then get to the understanding that you were wrong, then? Ummmm, I guess the fact that there are three types of groups whereas I was thinking of only two types... >> It's the kind of documentation that makes sense if you already know >> what it is telling you and otherwise just sounds like a circular >> definition... and, unfortunately, there are quite a few sections like >> this in the gnus manual. > > I am sure suggestions for improvements are very welcome! I would be more than happy to not only make suggestions but also add text etc. However, the problem is I don't really understand the text well enough to even begin adding or changing text! Vicious cycle here (for me). > What I got from reading it is that groups from servers in select-method > and secondary-select-methods are called native and other groups are > called foreign. Seems quite straightforward? Okay, I didn't get that from the text but I guess that makes sense. It still doesn't really tell me how or why the distinction is made, especially between secondary and foreign? How/where are the latter actually defined? Anyway, in my case, this distinction does not appear to be anything I need to worry about. And I think the OP has solved his problem, in the sense of identifying the boundary conditions for gnus for his use case. Thanks for the help, eric --=20 : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 + No Gnus v0.= 16