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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:32:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87myh5w46s.fsf@xemacs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86d4i1ft75.fsf@lifelogs.com>

Ted Zlatanov writes:

 > RS> Grep finished (matches found) at Wed Oct 15 23:58:55
 > 
 > It's a common usage, e.g. in locale names.  'UTF-8 is also common and
 > should be added.

It's intended to be a user convenience for typing to iconv and the
like.  It was introduced IIRC by glibc, comparing encoding names by
stripping out non-alphanumerics and canonicalizing case.  However,
internally Emacs should use the IANA registered names, and only use
aliases where one encoding has multiple names for some reason (are
there any?) or where one encoding is implemented as an alias to
another (binary and iso-8859-1-unix).

I agree that users should be allowed the convenience; this can be done
with a `read-mime-charset' or the like, which will determine what the
user wants and produce a canonical encoding name.  I see no good
reason for allowing it to programmers, who will probably spell it "u
M-/ 8" in any case.<wink>  If it's being seen in MIME headers, very
likely it's spam.  Responsible MUAs will use the names registered with
the IANA where available, but spammers tend to disregard RFCs the way
they disregard all other civilized usage.  Emacs should not emulate
them.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-16  4:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-14 20:30 jidanni
2008-10-14 20:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15  0:39   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-15 16:10     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-15 17:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 19:49       ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 19:05         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 22:03           ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 21:23             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  0:15               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-20 16:23                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-21  0:01                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-15 23:35                     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-16  4:32               ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-10-16  6:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-16 13:01                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  2:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 14:27               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-16 15:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 17:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-17 19:59                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-18 19:01                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  1:14                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-20  3:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  8:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-20 17:04                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  4:39                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21  5:23                               ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  6:25                                 ` tomas
2008-10-21  6:21                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  7:44                                     ` tomas
2008-10-21  8:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21  9:06                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 10:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21 12:06                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 12:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22  2:34                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  4:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:02                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22  0:32                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  4:27                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-27  4:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21  8:06                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-20 16:00                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-20 22:03                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  2:50                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21 16:00                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-22  1:22                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  2:07                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  6:21                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-23  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-23 21:08                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-24  0:54                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-24 18:36                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22 13:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-24 17:21                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-25  2:01                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25  2:32                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31  6:33                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-31  7:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-10-31 19:31                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-01  2:17                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-02  1:53                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-07  7:15                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-07 17:04                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25 18:27                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31 21:29                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-10  5:43                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-10 15:01                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16  1:12         ` Kenichi Handa

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