From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66685 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Joachim Newsgroups: gmane.discuss,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Slow Access from Gnus Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87myo9bczp.fsf@gmx.de> References: <76abkahc6i.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <87r6dmobkp.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <76sky2fksc.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <877ifdhip3.fsf@dod.no> <76d4p5g22s.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <764pahfsdj.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <76ve2xe8ep.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207339792 17124 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2008 20:09:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no, ding@gnus.org To: Jake Colman Original-X-From: gmane-discuss-bounces@hawk.netfonds.no Fri Apr 04 22:10:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gd-gmane-discuss@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from hawk.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.246]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JhsEi-0003rA-Pn for gd-gmane-discuss@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:10:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=hawk.netfonds.no) by hawk.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1JhsEF-0005Hq-00; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:09:39 +0200 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hawk.netfonds.no with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1JhsEB-0005Hl-00 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:09:36 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Apr 2008 20:08:56 -0000 Original-Received: from p54864B9E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO debian) [84.134.75.158] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 04 Apr 2008 22:08:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CwXBVl/LCYfw1qp2lA8n/gxF7vQRYcebC5WNOI2 OGgtnYJn8PJMHR Mail-Followup-To: Jake Colman , gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no, ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:54:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: gmane-discuss.hawk.netfonds.no List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: gmane-discuss-bounces@hawk.netfonds.no Errors-To: gmane-discuss-bounces@hawk.netfonds.no Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.discuss:11612 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66685 Archived-At: On 2008-04-04 21:54 +0200, Reiner Steib wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04 2008, Jake Colman wrote: > >> WOW! What a difference! My prior setting for >> 'gnus-fetch-old-headers' was t. I set it to 500 and I now enter the >> group virtually instantaneously. Is there any practical downside to >> specifying a number instead of 't'? > > You might not see old posting in the threads... > > ,----[ (info "(gnus)Filling In Threads") ] > | `gnus-fetch-old-headers' > | If non-`nil', Gnus will attempt to build old threads by fetching > | more old headers--headers to articles marked as read. If you would > | like to display as few summary lines as possible, but still > | connect as many loose threads as possible, you should set this > | variable to `some' or a number. If you set it to a number, no > | more than that number of extra old headers will be fetched. In > | either case, fetching old headers only works if the back end you > | are using carries overview files--this would normally be `nntp', > | `nnspool', `nnml', and `nnmaildir'. Also remember that if the > | root of the thread has been expired by the server, there's not > | much Gnus can do about that. > | > | This variable can also be set to `invisible'. This won't have any > | visible effects, but is useful if you use the `A T' command a lot > | (*note Finding the Parent::). > `---- > >> What setting do _you_ use? > > I've set it to t, but I fetch all newsgroups groups from my local > leafnode server, which does expire Gmane groups, so I don't experience > the slowness. Maybe we should warn about this setting when using > news.gmane.org. Seems like a good idea, see below. > Do others see the slow access on Gmane with as well > with `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set to t? I just tried with gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general (HUGE!), where I have two dozen ticked articles. After ~1 minute Emacs still was displaying something like "nntp read: 92167k" (yes, ca. 90 Megabyte!), then I got tired and typed C-g. Fortunately, memory footprint dropped to a reasonable level afterwards. Sven