From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65784 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Patch] Make tls.el support certificate verification Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:47:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87myt1dpwr.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> References: <877imqtdhb.fsf@denkblock.local> <87zlzc35bh.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <87ps063ixd.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <87zlxo4lwr.fsf@denkblock.local> <87d4uaksur.fsf@denkblock.local> <877ikhlrgs.fsf@denkblock.local> <87r6iff9hf.fsf@denkblock.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196088508 10410 80.91.229.12 (26 Nov 2007 14:48:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Elias Oltmanns Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 26 15:48:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IwfG5-0005f4-He for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:48:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwfFq-0003A4-3K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IwfFk-00039E-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IwfFj-00038M-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwfFi-00038H-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IwfFi-0000If-2n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id lAQEllCO030627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:47:50 +0100 OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 1:22:071126:ding@gnus.org::z5haVCST7XnKcJ/f:0QxR X-Hashcash: 1:22:071126:emacs-devel@gnu.org::ZIM4TmffIKF8NPpB:2eXv X-Hashcash: 1:22:071126:eo@nebensachen.de::M9oceTFvpkNsDbOT:58mZ In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:18:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84137 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65784 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: >> After all, the mail server needn't have a certificate signed by one >> of the well known CAs and may still be valid. Besides, users might >> want to specify the set of trusted root certificates depending on >> the server emacs is connecting to. All this seems to make proper >> documentation more important than presetting any defaults. Do you >> think the provided doc strings can serve this purpose or should I >> squeeze in a few sentences somewhere else? > > As tls.el is not specific to Gnus (it is in lisp/net in Emacs 22), it > should probably not be documented in gnus.texi, maybe in > smtpmail.texi, e.g. (info "(smtpmail)Authentication"). Gnus isn't the best place to document it, but I'm not sure smtpmail is better. Will it be found by searching through the normal emacs manuals? Maybe even writing a new tls.texi to discuss all TLS related stuff is warranted. I don't know what the policy on new *.texi files is, if we have too many already or whether having one per elisp package is actually a good idea. /Simon