From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63607 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Please add pgg-discard-passphrase-cache Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:04:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87mz9jzyvu.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> References: <7isljcsgqx.fsf@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> <94dbb93a-f189-4ab0-80b7-c4f067fb2ed7@well-done.deisui.org> <87sljcaro9.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <5595f934-8d29-456b-8e01-35ad426df461@well-done.deisui.org> <87veo8ymjf.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <066b5281-8ea9-46df-986c-b0c4df6e5cb3@well-done.deisui.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157105388 27396 80.91.229.2 (1 Sep 2006 10:09:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juliusz Chroboczek , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m12134@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 01 12:09:46 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJ5wF-0006a1-3Q for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:07:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1GJ5wA-0000xf-00; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:07:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1GJ5tB-0000xZ-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:04:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.227.211]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJ5t7-00040M-CM for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:04:41 -0500 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1GJ5t1-0003co-00 for ; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:04:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id k81A4LP1005124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:04:22 +0200 Original-To: Daiki Ueno OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 1:22:060901:ding@gnus.org::nlxU3LrRH8kXGYx+://7 X-Hashcash: 1:22:060901:jch@pps.jussieu.fr::jss2HBeIqVtcrmdG:3q45 X-Hashcash: 1:22:060901:ueno@unixuser.org::/XvChtPI/29og0xD:NcXg In-Reply-To: <066b5281-8ea9-46df-986c-b0c4df6e5cb3@well-done.deisui.org> (Daiki Ueno's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:34:43 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63607 Archived-At: Daiki Ueno writes: >>>>>> In <87veo8ymjf.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> >>>>>> Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Does it fully supersede all of pgg.el's features? > > As of now it only lacks PGP 2.x/5.x support, but is it still needed? I'm not sure. I don't care about it. Anyone else? Are there any advantages with epg.el over pgg.el? S/MIME support through gpgsm? >> Maybe we should include it in Gnus CVS as a start? > > Please do not! There is no review process among Gnus developers and > someone might check his kludge in CVS without my permission. > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63038 > > I don't want to repeat pgg.el mistake. I'm not sure it is a good idea to recommend an external package for PGP support again. Practically, that makes it more difficult to use PGP with Gnus, which defeats the goal of supporting PGP. What do others think? I'd really want whatever PGP package we use to either be part of Gnus CVS or Emacs CVS. Automatically copying the files into Gnus CVS from epg.el's CVS would work fine, I think. Would that be OK? Then all changes to epg.el has to go through you before they hit Gnus CVS.