From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61354 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Browning Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Possible to auto-subscribe new mail groups even w/o nntp server? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:09:11 -0800 Message-ID: <87mzkcf94o.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131660892 10623 80.91.229.2 (10 Nov 2005 22:14:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9886@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Nov 10 23:14:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaKgI-0000lF-3G for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:14:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EaKg7-00041m-00; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:13:55 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EaKbg-00041h-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:09:20 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EaKbd-0004M8-73 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:09:20 -0600 Original-Received: from li12-156.members.linode.com ([70.85.129.156] helo=defaultvalue.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EaKbb-0000XZ-00 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:09:15 +0100 Original-Received: from omen.defaultvalue.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7709090D2B for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:09:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from trouble.defaultvalue.org (omen.defaultvalue.org [192.168.1.1]) by omen.defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B31E4106 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:09:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by trouble.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B59183C1001; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:09:11 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61354 Archived-At: In an account where I only want to use Gnus for mail, if I do this: (setq mail-sources '((pop ...)) (setq gnus-permanently-visible-groups "^\\(nnml\\|nnmaildir\\|nndraft\\)") (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "foo" ...))) (setq gnus-level-default-subscribed 2) and then enter Gnus via gnus-no-server, Gnus will fetch new mail and place it in nnml+foo:misc (via a trivial fancy split rule), but that group won't be visible in the groups buffer, and if I look at the server buffer via '^', the server nnml+foo isn't there. Is that expected? If instead I run M-x gnus, and answer "no" to "go offline" and "yes" to "continue", the nnml+foo server does show up in the server buffer as (opened), but when the first mail arrives to nnml+foo:misc, the group still doesn't appear in the groups buffer, and it doesn't show up as either a zombie or killed group (via 'A z' or 'A k'). However, I can still manually ('u') subscribe to nnml+foo:misc, and if I do that, then it looks like nnml+foo groups created after that will automatically appear in the groups buffer (at least those created via 'B c'), but what was the status of the nnml+foo:misc group before I did that? Of course, I may well be doing something wrong, but in the end, I just wanted to figure out a simple way to use Gnus for mail, without having to have access to an nntp server, and with an arrangement where all new mail groups are automatically subscribed and visible in the group buffer. (My Gnus version is "No Gnus v0.4" via the current Debian unstable package.) Thanks -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4