From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54679 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam/ham exit processors Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:31:27 +0000 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87n0bbzry8.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> References: <76ekwpy35x.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4nllqx47mx.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87ptg9ryb2.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <87vfq15h3o.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <4nllqx16ul.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <877k2h5ds4.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <4nptg8sw8u.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <7665i0rwwm.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4nvfq0ds72.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <761xsorq5v.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067986418 23887 80.91.224.253 (4 Nov 2003 22:53:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3220@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 04 23:53:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHA3L-0001yM-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:53:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AHA2w-0003WA-00; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:53:10 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AHA2p-0003W4-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:53:03 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3623A004F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:53:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AH9i9-0007zc-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:31:41 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 16 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-203-244-156.kunde.vdserver.de Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1067985101 30154 213.203.244.156 (4 Nov 2003 22:31:41 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:31:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Uzh90/o9nBRgK3uPsZVwQDtJF2I= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54679 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54679 Jake Colman writes: > I MUST be missing something here. Don't the filters _already know_ that > the messages were spam? How else did they end up in the intermediate folder? > Why do you need to train if it's been trained? No, the filters don't _know_. They just _predict_ that with a sufficiently high probability, the message is spam. Sometimes, they predict wrong so it's good to double-check. Double-checking is not a big problem because finding the one ham in 100 messages is quite easy, whereas finding 50 hams in 100 messages is difficult and tedious. Kai