From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54505 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Charset encoding brokenness Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:03:00 +0300 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87n0bkfrvf.fsf@unix.home> References: <87ism9rgax.fsf@unix.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067411024 13475 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 07:03:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3046@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Oct 29 08:03:42 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEkMo-00027K-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:03:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AEkM3-0001Rw-00; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:02:55 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AEkLy-0001Rr-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:02:50 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADC03A0057 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:02:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEkLu-0008Fe-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:02:46 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEkLs-0008FW-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:02:44 +0100 Original-Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEkLs-0003Ty-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:02:44 +0100 Original-Lines: 122 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Ux/9quZ9WnQ8uyNo6U4vrjd3mg= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54505 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54505 On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:41:35 +0100, Jesper Harder wrote: > deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) writes: > >>> 1. When I ask someone to forward a message, I usually want a >>> _verbatim_ copy, not an interpretation by Gnus. >> >> Hm. Then we really should have different options to have both >> interpretation and verbatim plaintext forwards. > > We already have that ... the problem is that verbatim forward is > currently broken. Heh. The ``interpretation'' forward _is_ broken. I've just updated Gnus from CVS. See lower for details. >> In fact, the interpretation is much more often desired. What the use do >> I have of base64 undecoded? > > If you just want to read the message, then it doesn't matter if it's > base64 encoded -- Gnus decodes it automatically, so you won't even > notice unless you view the raw message. You didn't get it: I set message-forward-as-mime to nil and press C-c C-f and get a block like: -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail Message-ID: <20031019222253.40d11690.bulldog@kaluga.ru> From: Oleg Sheremetinsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.user.russian Subject: Re: Oort Gnus Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:22:53 +0400 References: <20031017214524.0687b646.bulldog@kaluga.ru> <878ynj66to.fsf@unix.home> <20031018204829.630c8e47.bulldog@kaluga.ru> <87vfqmbd72.fsf@unix.home> Lines: 17 Organization: =?KOI8-R?Q?=F4=EF=EF_"=F2=D5=CC=C5=DA"?= Sender: xemacs-users-ru-admin@xemacs.org Approved: news@gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066587859 15862 80.91.224.253 (19 Oct 2003 18:24:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: xemacs-users-ru-admin@xemacs.org Sun Oct 19 20:24:17 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ABIDw-0005Js-00 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:24:17 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h9JIO2v28821; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h9JIN4x28617 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h9JIN4n28607 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from lancia.kaluga.ru (lancia.kaluga.ru [62.148.128.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h9JIN3v28600 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (14.pool-157.kaluga.ru [62.148.157.14]) by lancia.kaluga.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9JIMxcl089459 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:23:00 +0400 (MSD) Original-Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix on, from userid 500) id AB68F2454A; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:22:53 +0400 (MSD) Original-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <87vfqmbd72.fsf@unix.home> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-asplinux-linux-gnu) X-XEmacs-List: users-ru Errors-To: xemacs-users-ru-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Russian XEmacs Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gwyn.tux.org id h9JIO2v28821 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.xemacs.user.russian:747 Xref: unix.home gmane.emacs.xemacs.user.russian:457 T24gU2F0LCAxOCBPY3QgMjAwMyAyMjo0MTo1MyArMDQwMA0KZGVza3BvdEBkZXNwYW1tZWQu Y29tIChWYXNpbHkgS29yeXRvdikgd3JvdGU6DQoNCg0KPiA+PiD1x9UuIO7PINrB3sXNINTF wsUgyc3Fzs7PIE9vcnQ/IDUuMTAg1dbFINDPzMfPxMEgy8HLINfZ28XMLiDpzMkg1NkNCj4g Pj4gyM/exdvYIMnNxdTYIMzPx88g0yDU1c3Bzs/NPyDkz9PUwdTP3s7PINfZ1MHdydTYIM/E yc4gxsHKzCDJ2iBPb3J0Lg0KPiA+IPTV1CDJztTF0sXTzsHRINfF3dggz8LOwdLV1snMwdPY IC0gZ251cyDJ2iBjdnMnwSDQ0skg0M/T1MnOx8HIDQo+ID4gKMbP0tfB0sTByCkgxM/Xz8zY zs8gxM/Mx88gz9TQ0sHXzNHF1CDT1MHU2Mkgx8TFIMvPzMnexdPU188g09TSz8sgPiAxMDAN Cj4gPiAo0NLJzcXSzs8g1MHLKS4gT29ydCBnbnVzINzUycgg1M/Szc/az9cgzsUgyc3FxdQu IPEg0M/Oyc3BwCwg3tTPINzUzyDOxQ0KPiA+IMLPzMXFLCDexc0i0M/E2sXNztnKINPU1csi LCDOzyDX06Mg1sUuLi4NCj4gDQo+IOjNLiDxINTP1sUg2sHNxdTJzCDc1M8sIM7PIMfSxdvJ zCDOwSDT18/KIMTPwsHXzMXOztnKINDSycLMydrJ1MXM2M7PINcNCj4g1M8g1sUg19LFzdEg yNXLLg0KDQr3IMTP0M/MzsXOycUgyyDQ0sXE2cTV3cXN1SDQydPYzdUgLSBHbnVzIMnaIGN2 cyfBINDPxCBYRW1hY3Mnz80g0M/exc3VLdTPDQrX08Ug09TB1NjJIM/U0NLB18zRxdQgwsXa INDSz8LMxc0uIPfP1CDUwcvB0SDXz9Qg2sHHz8fVzMnOwSA6LSkNCg0KLS0gDQrzINXXwdbF zsnFzSwg+8XSxc3F1MnO08vJyiDvzMXHICD308sg78vUIDE5IDIyOjIwOjI1IE1TRCAyMDAz DQpFLW1haWw6IGJ1bGxkb2c8YXQ+a2FsdWdhLnJ1ICjHLiDrwczVx8EpDQoNCg== -------------------- End of forwarded message -------------------- >> And if that wasn't me -- but some poor Outlook or even fido users? > > Outlook has no problem with viewing base64. I don't know about Fido, > but I'd consider any client which doesn't do base64 to be extremely > obsolete. I know no MUA, that handle such constructions properly. Even Gnus. -- I accept RFC3156 and RFC2440-compatible encrypted mail. PGP key fingerprint: 123A 7CCE 6E26 6233 0D87 E01A A0F8 3524 FCD8 1841