T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[jari.aalto]

1.
        Since Gnus does not have labels, I have come up with idea of
        posting an empty "label" article to my mail groups and putting all
        releveant messages under that article.

        However there is no method in Gnus to simple "add" and article
        to the group. Currently I send it to myself and do Gcc to the
        group.

        --> Request: Please add command to add an empty aricle to group
            without posting it anywhere.
    
2.      Reparenting aricles are difficult. If I mark parent with # and then
        go to child and press T ^, the article is moved, but also the
        the parent mark is removed

        --> Request: Please do not removed the parent #, because I want
            to move several articles under one parent.

3.      Request: add method to move entire a) thread b) set of marked 
        articles under some parent.

After these changes, we can pretty nicely implement "labels" in group,
for example I have a work.nok where all the NOK case reports arrive
and they all have impact level how important the messages are and what
I do is that I arrange the Summary buffer's articles:


        urgent-label-article            empty article: The parent
          -article that needs my attention _now_
          -article that needs my attention _now_
        non-urgent-label-article
          -article that needs my attention soon...
          -article that needs my attention soon...
        inforeq-label-article
          -article that needs more information
          -article that needs more information
        Handled-label-article
          -rest of the articles

When the case comes closed, I move the article under "handled" label.
This is all lot of work because there is no convenient way to do
reparenting and add new empty articles.

Howabout it?
jari

Re: T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[Per Abrahamsen]

<jari.aalto@poboxes.com> writes:

> Howabout it?

Sounds silly.  If you want to emulate labels, create a new group for
each label, and more the articles to the appropriate group(s).  The
create a virtual group to combine the label-groups.

Re: T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[jari.aalto]

 98-01-22 Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> list.ding
| <jari.aalto@poboxes.com> writes:
| 
| > Howabout it?
| 
| Sounds silly.  If you want to emulate labels, create a new group for
| each label, and more the articles to the appropriate group(s).  The
| create a virtual group to combine the label-groups.

Actually labels are a bit more than a group. Labels are "properties"
for the article and I desperately wish there were true labels that
could be attached to messages to signify its: impact level, seriousness,
and need attention a)now b) soon c) find people to forward it to d) ...


jari

Re: T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[Per Abrahamsen]

<jari.aalto@poboxes.com> writes:

> Labels are "properties" for the article and I desperately wish there
> were true labels that could be attached to messages to signify its:
> impact level, seriousness, and need attention a)now b) soon c) find
> people to forward it to d) ...

They are (or were) on the todo list, but then again so was solving the
halting problem. 

You can still use newsgroups as pseudo-labels, use `B B' to make an
article occur in more than one group.  You can't do that with
references. 

Re: T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[Stephen Zander]

<jari.aalto@poboxes.com> writes:

> 2.      Reparenting aricles are difficult. If I mark parent with # and then
>         go to child and press T ^, the article is moved, but also the
>         the parent mark is removed
> 
>         --> Request: Please do not removed the parent #, because I want
>             to move several articles under one parent.

Whouldn't the reverse be better, ie add a command (T v ?) to reparent
all #'d messages to the current message? I picked T v 'cause it's the
visual inverse of (T ^).

Of course, I could just shut up and wrte the thing too.... :)

-- 
Stephen
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Re: T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[jari.aalto]

 98-01-22 Stephen Zander <srz@mckesson.com> list.ding
| <jari.aalto@poboxes.com> writes:
| 
| > 2.      Reparenting aricles are difficult. If I mark parent with # and then
| >         go to child and press T ^, the article is moved, but also the
| >         the parent mark is removed
| > 
| >         --> Request: Please do not removed the parent #, because I want
| >             to move several articles under one parent.
| 
| Whouldn't the reverse be better, ie add a command (T v ?) to reparent
| all #'d messages to the current message? I picked T v 'cause it's the
| visual inverse of (T ^).

Yes; this would be better. More parenting commands would be nice 
overall.

jari

Re: T ^ command change request (labels in gnus)

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stephen Zander <srz@mckesson.com> writes:

> Whouldn't the reverse be better, ie add a command (T v ?) to reparent
> all #'d messages to the current message? I picked T v 'cause it's the
> visual inverse of (T ^).

I've now added this to the todo list.

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