From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85196 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: news:gnu.emacs.* Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:33:14 +0000 Message-ID: <87oasu9flx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <20141015154039.GC3093@acm.acm> <87y4sh2rsj.fsf@gmx.de> <87bnpdxnve.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <87egtrb04t.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414654437 5726 80.91.229.3 (30 Oct 2014 07:33:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:33:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 08:33:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEz-0003ku-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:33:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51174 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEy-0003x8-UC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 03:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEj-0003x0-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 03:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEZ-0003L9-0U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 03:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:44217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEY-0003Kv-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 03:33:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=EIfmSkV71mcggcgT5jpwcgzCkcBSLkVQxcKnBu0yKwQ=; b=lbpTwhJBH6zVzcG6W+KN4c0W5OMRAFXQO6H4C99WTWx+fylJWwhOXkq24ThTtS/mKDw1PvPJjT9sfFkZoUNrUrPx7rJu4FYTFLnm/kAV0mOGlv03kM3Ver9qGdLyu+EQb+WyHr15qoxnx7FVTXcEhY1/TWHB/zhLF3QEnJy8rko=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEU-0003sF-Ma; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:33:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XjkEN-00079s-F1; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:33:15 +0700 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:29:21 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176055 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85196 Archived-At: >>>>> Glenn Morris writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> FTR, =E2=80=93 the Message-Id:s are broken not just for news:gnu.emacs.= bug >> alone, =E2=80=93 news:gnu.emacs.help shows exactly the same issue (see, >> e.=C2=A0g., the example I've posted earlier [1]), and presumably the sa= me >> applies all across the gnu.emacs.* groups (or perhaps even all the >> gnu.* ones.) > This is a Mailman FAQ. > http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3D4030712 ACK, thanks for the pointer. > Nobody here at emacs-devel can do anything about the GNU newsgroups > or mailing lists, so please don't email us about them. The page above reads: > If your mail program or newsreader implements message threading > correctly (see http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html), then it should > be able to deal with these differences. If not, then you should > complain to the people responsible for implementing and supporting > your mail program or newsreader. I=E2=80=99ll be just as happy if Gnus could be made to properly handle threading in those same newsgroups. Could we discuss possible fixes here, please? (I assume that Gnus is within the emacs-devel@ scope, given that Gnus is part of GNU=C2=A0Emacs. Cross-posting to ding@gnus.org, though, so feel free to drop the former on follow-up.) --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A