From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84033 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: still want Seen articles split... 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I use imap, and > EA> one unfortunate side-effect is that if I look at a message on the tablet > EA> (in the gmail app) and leave it marked as read, then sync using Gnus > EA> later, that message won't be split, because %Seen is one of the flags in > EA> the default value of nnimap-unsplittable-articles. > > EA> I can't really take it out of there, because IIUC that will resplit all > EA> the messages in INBOX every single time I sync, which would be bad. On > EA> the other hand, I can't immediately think of any solution to the > EA> problem. > > EA> Has anyone else encountered this and thought about it? > > I did, and have no solution. Annoying. Maybe we need a gnus-seen flag? > > Ted That's what I was thinking, too. There could be a little bonus in there, in that you could customize whether it is the Seen or gnus-seen flags that decide if gnus shows an article as read or unread. So if you're not using your tablet/phone as a primary mail device, you could choose to have gnus basically ignore the fact that you'd read an article on that device. If you set it the other way, gnus will treat the articles as read and hide them, but still split them. Implementing this would be another issue... Eric