From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78898 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap, marks and agent leftovers Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 19:39:18 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87oc2qznll.fsf@dod.no> References: <87d3j7xbob.fsf@nemi.mork.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306345323 10207 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2011 17:42:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:42:03 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M27198@lists.math.uh.edu Wed May 25 19:41:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QPI5l-00085j-Db for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 25 May 2011 19:41:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QPI3V-0001VY-S4; Wed, 25 May 2011 12:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QPI3T-0001VN-6W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 25 May 2011 12:39:35 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QPI3R-0006qF-Bu for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 25 May 2011 12:39:34 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QPI3O-0005IZ-Dk for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 25 May 2011 19:39:30 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QPI3O-0006RI-2k for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 25 May 2011 19:39:30 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.226.30.getinternet.no ([84.208.226.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 May 2011 19:39:30 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.226.30.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 May 2011 19:39:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.226.30.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jRR1/Uqrjx92avaDoKpAMyLBcKI= X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78898 Archived-At: >>>>> Bjørn Mork : > I have learned that nnimap and agent don't mix. It makes all sorts of > weird things happening, and sometimes hides mail to the degree that I > haven't yet found a way to display it using Gnus with agent. What happens, are: - Sometimes the wrong article is cached - Sometimes a piece of NOV data is cached instead of the article Unfortunately I haven't been able to reproduce _when_ this happens. I've tried debugging the agent caching in nnimap with the new nnimap backend (the attempts are somewhere in this group). > So I don't use agent for my nnimap servers anymore. Note: all of these issues appeared when agent met the new nnimap backend (which I love for its speed) I think maybe the agent should be a candidate for a full rewrite....? Not something I can step up to volunteer for myself, unfortunately. [snip!] > used agent on these servers! Looks like Gnus found the ancient data > under ~/News/agent/nnimap/ and used it, even though the servers were > not agentized (they are not listed in ~/News/agent/lib/servers). This has always been the case, I think. Not something that appeared with the new nnimap backend. > So my advice is: Don't just disabe agent on nnimap servers, but be sure > to delete/move all data from ~/News/agent/nnimap/ as well! Quite possibly. Note that when the agent caches the wrong stuff, deleting the wrongly cached article under ~/News/agent/nnimap/ is enough to fix the issue with strange behaviour. Having to do so at all, is kind of annoying, though...