From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77343 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: make-progress-reporter suggestions: 'modeline and customizable progress-reporter--pulse-characters Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:56:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87oc60md3x.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87ei76yi1x.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj1ergg5.fsf@gmx.de> <87ipwi3hjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwrmr6gf.fsf@gmx.de> <8739nm1u6n.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <878vxdxfzw.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwrj6j18.fsf@gmx.de> <87zkpp43s2.fsf@gmx.de> <87aaho0yi1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipwb5fcc.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwrf87f3.fsf@gmx.de> <87tyfuh3l3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298642238 25271 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2011 13:57:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 25 14:57:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsyAQ-0001S7-NY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:57:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35639 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PsyAP-0002o1-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48445 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PsyAG-0002nL-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PsyAF-0008JL-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:57:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:60450) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PsyAE-0008J0-G1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:56:58 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Feb 2011 13:56:56 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB91D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.145.213] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 25 Feb 2011 14:56:56 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ovqY0J53o/tVtvm8eJoNNCwXw0B4erIVCpGwX6t VSOHNkJQc61QQG In-Reply-To: <87tyfuh3l3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:56:56 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 213.165.64.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136507 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77343 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > I'm dubious about the idea. The mode-line is supposed to show > information about one window, while the progress-reporter is a global > indicator, so conceptually it's not a good fit. As I have explained in another message, I propose to allow symbols for the identification of the place where to show the progress. These symbols could belong to the modeline. These symbols shall be made buffer-local. But then it isn't a global indicator anymore, indeed. > Global indicators, especially transient ones, ought to use the echo > area. This would still be possible. > If that's too hard, how about reserving the first character in the echo > area for a spinner instead? This might interfere with minibuffers.