From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68976 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and No Gnus Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:08:20 +0900 Message-ID: <87ocplz23f.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <1xfxaxlx7n.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252436484 18291 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2009 19:01:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Katsumi Yamaoka , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 21:01:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ml5wJ-0001gu-1l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:01:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54550 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ml5wI-0002Uf-IC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ml5wD-0002UZ-GC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ml5w9-0002SW-1T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46142 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ml5w8-0002ST-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:55854) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ml5w6-00041g-7L; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AFF820E; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 04:00:57 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8A231A260E; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 04:08:20 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 891381effa11+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115149 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68976 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Please install whatever version you prefer, regardless of warnings. > Personally, I would just expand the define-obsolete-function-alias > macro (for Emacs 21), and leave the featurep test, since: i) it's > totally correct today; ii) it seems unlikely XEmacs will ever add > float-time; Where *do* you get your information? I had no idea! > iii) even if it does, it does zero harm if Gnus keeps > using time-to-seconds there; and iv) since Gnus will want to support > older versions of XEmacs, you wont be able to remove time-to-seconds > for many years anyway. Ah, that turns out not to be the case. It will go into a package, probably xemacs-base, which means that older versions of XEmacs can get it conveniently when they update Gnus. It's not like it's needed to bootstrap.