From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68054 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Sullivan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Agent & disconnected IMAP: move messages between folders? Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:24:34 -0500 Message-ID: <87ocyoxhml.fsf@ashbery.wjsullivan.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231093681 23500 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2009 18:28:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:28:01 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16499@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Jan 04 19:29:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJXip-0005Gy-TT for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:29:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJXgU-00006M-Hy; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:26:46 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJDvB-00055D-Hv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:20:37 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LJDv9-0001ub-6N for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:20:37 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LJDvP-0000gA-00 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:20:51 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LJDv5-0001Dk-Cx for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:20:31 +0000 Original-Received: from 71.174.56.207 ([71.174.56.207]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:20:31 +0000 Original-Received: from john by 71.174.56.207 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:20:31 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.174.56.207 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WfYC6TSxZGNR4ro/HBdl8dlAiaM= X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68054 Archived-At: Greg Troxel writes: > I don't think there is philosophical opposition to disconnected IMAP - > it's just hard. Right now the agent seems to be a read-only cache of > the server. With disconnected IMAP you keep log of operations to play > back later. I don't know whether implementations typically modify the > cache or play back the log locally when reading the cache, but I suspect > the cache reflects the state with the log operations applied. All of > this seems doable, and seems like a natural extension to the agent. You > might want to look at the Coda filesystem for inspiration of how to deal > with things, but Thunderbird might be more useful. It seems there > should be an open-source disconnected-mode IMAP library. I wonder if > it's just easier to use an offline IMAP proxy, and if those really > support disconnected mode. I've been getting around this problem happily for a couple years now by having gnus talk to a local IMAP server running right on my laptop (courier in my case), and syncing to my upstream IMAP server with the program offlineimap. I do that for mail and leafnode for nntp, and life is pretty good offline. -- John Sullivan Emacs Planner Maintainer http://wjsullivan.net/PlannerMode.html GPG Key: AE8600B6