From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54700 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Shields Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: scoring vs. killing Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:54:30 +0000 Organization: Mad Science Research Labs Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87oevp1iy1.fsf@mulligatwani.msrl.com> References: <878ymu2b6b.fsf@mulligatwani.msrl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068141362 606 80.91.224.253 (6 Nov 2003 17:56:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3241@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Nov 06 18:56:00 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHoMS-00054z-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:56:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AHoL8-0003eU-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:54:38 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AHoL3-0003eP-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:54:33 -0600 Original-Received: from challah.msrl.com (challah.msrl.com [198.137.194.222]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AAB3A004B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:54:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 9767 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 17:54:31 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (HELO mulligatwani.msrl.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Nov 2003 17:54:31 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:26:41 +0100") Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54700 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54700 In message , Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> wrote: > Maybe we could change "expunge" to "hide" (in No Gnus). Or is there a > better similar word? Suggestions from native speakers? "Hide" definitely sounds better to me. I suppose we could keep stubs of the old function names, so maybe it's not as hard to change as I had been thinking. The Oxford English Dictionary says: expunge, v. 1. trans. To strike out, blot out, erase, omit (a name or word from a list, a phrase or passage from a book or record). 2. fig. To wipe out, efface, annihilate, annul, destroy, put an end to. I'm a native speaker in the US, and my experience is that most use of "expunge" implies that it is permanent and removes all traces. That accurately describes the IMAP EXPUNGE command. Gnus already uses the word "hide" for temporarily concealing uninteresting article parts, thread trees in the summary buffer, and topics in the group buffer. -- Shields.