From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47030 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Offline mail and group cooperation Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:30:45 +1000 Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87ofa7j7ze.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> References: <873crj1ggd.fsf@crybaby.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033957903 8187 127.0.0.1 (7 Oct 2002 02:31:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 02:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17yNgJ-00027k-00 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 04:31:39 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17yNg7-0003kH-00; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 21:31:27 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 06 Oct 2002 21:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA11197 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:31:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 25462 invoked by alias); 7 Oct 2002 02:31:06 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 25457 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 02:31:05 -0000 Original-Received: from m029-045.nv.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.29.45) by gnus.org with SMTP; 7 Oct 2002 02:31:05 -0000 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8762810F0F0; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:30:45 +1000 (EST) Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: <873crj1ggd.fsf@crybaby.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Sun, 06 Oct 2002 22:05:06 +0200") Original-Lines: 46 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47030 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47030 On Sun, 06 Oct 2002, Kai Gro=DFjohann wrote: > grossjoh@lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: >=20 >> Another alternative might be to install a news server for our group, >> and everybody installs leafnode on their laptop. >=20 > I wonder how come that nobody commented on this alternative? ...because I didn't feel that I had very much to contribute. :) > Is anyone out there using this?=20=20 Not in exactly the situation you talk about, but for similar things, yes. > How does it work? Does anyone have experience with this versus doing > the shared folder thing via IMAP? It works well, though leafnode tends to slow down as the local cache size grows, because it simply dumps all articles for a single group in the one directory. Thus, performance is directly related to the (usually poor) filesystem directory search implementation. > It would also be interesting to hear from people using an NNTP for > group-local communication, without that extra offline stuff.=20 It's certainly very usable for this, what with being a many-to-many communications medium. It tends to have better tools available for using it than Shared IMAP, simply because it's been doing it longer. > Maybe I can learn from it whether it is time-intensive to maintain > your own NNTP server installation,=20 AFAIK, no, for a local server only. If you actually want to do news peering and exchange with other news servers (not including leafnode-style caching servers) then it's more involved. OTOH I run a cache-only server myself, so I may not have the full picture in my head. Daniel --=20 Reality is not as strong as perception. Perception all too often swallows reality and spits it out in a new, unrecognizable form. -- Maytee Aspuro