* Re: gnus reads my mail
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@ 2002-06-20 11:48 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-21 12:23 ` Norman Walsh
2002-06-20 12:04 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-06-21 12:23 ` Norman Walsh
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-06-20 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com> writes:
> One of my nnml mail groups (actually, my main "default" group) exhibits
> strange behavior: quite often all unread messages will get marked as
> read. I can't really understand when or why this happens, but it seems
> to be related to quitting gnus -- if I keep gnus running, it doesn't
> happen.
Does it help to remove the ".marks" file?
kai
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
[not found] <m2hejyuqmm.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>
2002-06-20 11:48 ` gnus reads my mail Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-06-20 12:04 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <m2bsa436hg.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>
2002-06-21 12:23 ` Norman Walsh
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2002-06-20 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jan Rychter wrote:
> One of my nnml mail groups (actually, my main "default" group) exhibits
> strange behavior: quite often all unread messages will get marked as
> read. I can't really understand when or why this happens, but it seems
> to be related to quitting gnus -- if I keep gnus running, it doesn't
> happen.
>
> Only one group exhibits this behavior. It hasn't done that before, but I
> did some serious group renaming about two weeks ago (using G
> r). Unfortunately, I am not sure when this started happening: it could
> be related to the renaming, but it could also be related to the cvs
> update on the Oort gnus that I run.
>
> Any hints on where I can look to fix this?
Does disabling gnus-agent, gnus-agent-cache, nnml-marks-is-evil change
anything?
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
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2002-06-20 11:48 ` gnus reads my mail Kai Großjohann
2002-06-20 12:04 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2002-06-21 12:23 ` Norman Walsh
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From: Norman Walsh @ 2002-06-21 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
/ Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com> was heard to say:
| One of my nnml mail groups (actually, my main "default" group) exhibits
| strange behavior: quite often all unread messages will get marked as
| read. I can't really understand when or why this happens, but it seems
| to be related to quitting gnus -- if I keep gnus running, it doesn't
| happen.
This is the same problem that I reported some weeks ago.
| Any hints on where I can look to fix this?
No, but if you figure it out, please tell us (me!).
Be seeing you,
norm
--
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | The facts, although interesting, are
http://nwalsh.com/ | usually irrelevant.
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
2002-06-20 11:48 ` gnus reads my mail Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-06-21 12:23 ` Norman Walsh
2002-06-22 11:05 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Norman Walsh @ 2002-06-21 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
/ Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai was heard to say:
| Does it help to remove the ".marks" file?
What .marks file?
Be seeing you,
norm
--
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | Truth lies within a little uncertain
http://nwalsh.com/ | compass, but error is immense.
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
[not found] ` <m2bsa436hg.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>
@ 2002-06-21 19:43 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-06-22 11:06 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Andreas Jaeger @ 2002-06-21 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com> writes:
> Simon> Does disabling gnus-agent, gnus-agent-cache, nnml-marks-is-evil
> Simon> change anything?
>
> I tried setting gnus-agent-cache to nil, which didn't improve things,
> and then I additionally set nnml-marks-is-evil to t, which indeed made
> the problem disappear. I still have (gnus-agentize) in my .gnus.
>
> I've also looked at the .marks file in my "in" group and it reads
> (reformatted here):
.marks file? I have nnml-marks-is-evil set to nil but no marks files
AFAIK. Where should I find them?
Andreas
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
2002-06-21 12:23 ` Norman Walsh
@ 2002-06-22 11:05 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-24 11:39 ` Norman Walsh
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-06-22 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> writes:
> / Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai was heard to say:
> | Does it help to remove the ".marks" file?
>
> What .marks file?
The file ~/Mail/group/name/.marks. Do you have such files?
kai
--
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
2002-06-21 19:43 ` Andreas Jaeger
@ 2002-06-22 11:06 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-06-22 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de> writes:
> .marks file? I have nnml-marks-is-evil set to nil but no marks files
> AFAIK. Where should I find them?
nnml groups have files ~/Mail/group/name/.marks.
nnfolder groups have files ~/Mail/group/name.mrk.
kai
--
A large number of young women don't trust men with beards. (BFBS Radio)
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* Re: gnus reads my mail
2002-06-22 11:05 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-06-24 11:39 ` Norman Walsh
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Norman Walsh @ 2002-06-24 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
/ Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> writes:
|
|> / Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai was heard to say:
|> | Does it help to remove the ".marks" file?
|>
|> What .marks file?
|
| The file ~/Mail/group/name/.marks. Do you have such files?
Aha! The culprit!
In my .newsrc.eld, I find:
("nnml:misc" 2 ((1 . 9429)) ...)
and in ~/Mail/misc/.marks:
((read (1 . 14321)) ...)
I'm willing to bet that I used to have 14321 messages before I 'B m'd
them to misc to remove a huge range of missing message numbers.
How did they get out of sync? A bug, I suppose...
So, according to the info pages, I can just blow away the .marks file
and it'll get rebuilt. I suppose I could also just disable marks
files. What to do?
1. Disable .marks?
2. Delete all the out-of-sync .marks
2a. Is there a tool that will compare .newsrc.eld files with .marks?
Be seeing you,
norm
--
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | Clearness is so eminently one of the
http://nwalsh.com/ | characteristics of truth that often it
| even passes for truth itself.--Joubert
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